Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
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Nothing for single tap? That's an unusual setup....
Apparently our IEM manager was afraid, that single tap in combination with touch sensor would be causing problems with hair, hats, etc or when you are simply putting them in your ears.
 
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If you’re referring to pressure within my ear, there is a gradual accumulation, but it’s no different than several IEMs I’ve owned. I typically just pull up on the top of my ear to release pressure and reseat the phone.

The only negative here is that the tips are too large for the charging case to close correctly. This is also true for spin-fit and similar tips.
yes something like that with regular eartips, I wish that third party tws specialized eartips didn't feel the same, through I wound mind now with pressure feeling just if I'm not too much making activity on my head
 
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The seller can always check with their supplier. I've had sellers check which chipset is being used or if AAC is supported
they could in theory, but some sellers was just misinformed. i had a bluetooth neckband that they said has APTX, and i ask them via messaging to get confirmation, and they said yes, only to find that it only supports SBC. also recently i asked a couple of sellers about the TFZ B. V2 drivers, and the official TFZ seller said it is dynamic drivers while others said balanced armature. the picture also adds to the confusion as it states using full frequency moving iron (what they usually call BA drivers with) but usong a picture of dynamic drivers.

i feel they're just putting everything in the description so that when people open a dispute, they can just say it's there on the description, or the opposite : it's a misprint :dt880smile:
so my point is just be careful with online sellers, and it's better to do research our own and trust statistics
 
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I really like that charging case! Too bad there isn't a standardized charging pin spec for TWS so the chargers were more universal, then we could buy a different style charging case for our favorite buds. Oh well
That would be pretty awesome! Though that would likely mean the space allowance for earbuds would have to be pretty big to allow for different earbud designs, making the charging case large :frowning2:
 
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they could in theory, but some sellers was just misinformed. i had a bluetooth neckband that they said has APTX, and i ask them via messaging to get confirmation, and they said yes, only to find that it only supports SBC. also recently i asked a couple of sellers about the TFZ B. V2 drivers, and the official TFZ seller said it is dynamic drivers while others said balanced armature. the picture also adds to the confusion as it states using full frequency moving iron (what they usually call BA drivers with) but usong a picture of dynamic drivers.

i feel they're just putting everything in the description so that when people open a dispute, they can just say it's there on the description, or the opposite : it's a misprint :dt880smile:
so my point is just be careful with online sellers, and it's better to do research our own and trust statistics
Actually I can comment on the TFZ B.V2 - they changed from using BA to using dynamic drivers a month or so ago. Which is why a lot of the pictures and details are still wrong. Both penon and TFZ AE stores confirmed this.
That was actually the main reason I didn't buy them from Massdrop - couldn't verify they were BA.

And if a seller promises one thing and delivers another you can always ask for refund / raise dispute.
 
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Apparently our IEM manager was afraid, that single tap in combination with touch sensor would be causing problems with hair, hats, etc or when you are simply putting them in your ears.
I don't imagine my opinion will count for much, but my preference would be to include the functionality and account for hair/hats/accidental touches with sensitivity adjustments of the touch control.

My ideal setup would be:
Single tap: pause/play or answer call
Double tap: increase volume on right / decrease on left
1 second hold: next track on the right / previous on the left
3-4 second hold: activate/deactivate ambient mode

Could substitute one of those with triple to as well if differentiating between 1/3-4 second holds is technically challenging
 
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I don't imagine my opinion will count for much, but my preference would be to include the functionality and account for hair/hats/accidental touches with sensitivity adjustments of the touch control.

My ideal setup would be:
Single tap: pause/play or answer call
Double tap: increase volume on right / decrease on left
1 second hold: next track on the right / previous on the left
3-4 second hold: activate/deactivate ambient mode

Could substitute one of those with triple to as well if differentiating between 1/3-4 second holds is technically challenging
Mine ideal set up would be similar, unfortunately I'm not in charge of this project.

One thing, they were trying to limit the split for left/right side due to use in mono mode. We had quite long discussion in company just to add the previous/next function.
 
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Mine ideal set up would be similar, unfortunately I'm not in charge of this project.

One thing, they were trying to limit the split for left/right side due to use in mono mode. We had quite long discussion in company just to add the previous/next function.
No one uses TWS in mono mode, especially nothing over $20.

I'm sure that people on this forum (and similar forums) would be happy to weigh in on decisions like this.

And we very much appreciate you providing information on here! This communication goes a long way in purchasing IEM's of a specific brand.
 
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No one uses TWS in mono mode, especially nothing over $20.

I'm sure that people on this forum (and similar forums) would be happy to weigh in on decisions like this.

And we very much appreciate you providing information on here! This communication goes a long way in purchasing IEM's of a specific brand.

I use them like this everyday :D But that's because walking on streets of China is tricky :)

These are our first TWS, so we will see if ideas of our designers were correct or not.
 
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I use them like this everyday :D But that's because walking on streets of China is tricky :)

These are our first TWS, so we will see if ideas of our designers were correct or not.
WOW, your participation on this forum and how open you are about it makes me want this IEM so bad!
Please make it sound good, if its similar to the TFZ X1/Mifo O5 should be awesome! :-D

I suspect KZ use to follow their thread also (because too many things criticized there were changed in new iterations of those IEMs.), but never see them commenting.
 
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Well
Heard back from 4 different suppliers on Aliexpress. The all sent me photos (none had the logo on) and one of em said they are the same model and specs etc. Just don't have Anbes printed on them
So I'm steering clear. The ones on Amazon.com won't ship to the UK. And there's a pair on eBay.com and he won't ship to the UK either :frowning2:
I'm a very sad bunny
 
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But is that case Type C? It's also only listed as 380mAh while 359/UFO has a 600mAh case. Letscom's BE32 has a different rectangular case as mentioned earlier using microUSB, and only has 400mAh despite claiming 24 hours. Interesting that Yineme doesn't have it listed on their site, only the UFO and some other products. Someone should make one with Type C connector and Qi charging...

Yineme and Letscom UFO are both listed as ST-BE30, they didn't even bother changing the OEM name.

Guys! Stop making Anbes bigger than it is. Anbes puts its name on EVERYTHING. Even the cheapest 1 dollar earphones which smell like paint.

This pictured XG-13 was also advertised as Anbes, but it's just a totally generic product.

As is any other Anbes. I'm sure it's safe to buy the other UFO designs. They're all the same, just a rebranded model that is called Air+ in your Bluetooth list. It's really nothing special.

I agree, but one could speculate that the units branded Anbes got a more reliable batch than the rebrands. Mine actually says "Coolhere UFO" on my Bluetooth list. Sure, defects can happen to all devices, but I'd still be more comfortable knowing people have tried and tested Anbes 359 without the defects I experienced with the rebrand. As a less severe note, I personally find the change to volume control in the rebrand as an annoyance.

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Heard back from 4 different suppliers on Aliexpress. The all sent me photos (none had the logo on) and one of em said they are the same model and specs etc. Just don't have Anbes printed on them
So I'm steering clear. The ones on Amazon.com won't ship to the UK. And there's a pair on eBay.com and he won't ship to the UK either :frowning2:
I'm a very sad bunny
They keep sending me photos with a nameless render that's been cropped to say "Bluetooth name: Anbes 359", go figure. None of them have sent me a real photo of what they are sending out, leaving me to suspect they are all being dropshipped, even Anbes Official.

No one uses TWS in mono mode, especially nothing over $20.
It's great listening to Beatles songs with one ear while you listen to the outside world with the other, no more worries about channel imbalance or added distortion! :p

Not TWS-related, but this looks interesting - a budget over-ear ANC that appears to have Type C charging from Coolhear/Coolhere. I'm wondering what's it a rebrand of though... https://www.coolhear.com/index.php?r=cms/site/page&id=7
 
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i hope you do also find it great like i do. if you like the X12 sound, chances are you'll love the Nillkin: similar tuning but with a more impact and faster bass, and clearer mids and treble.

i rarely use my X12 anymore except for sleeping, because the X12 has flatter profile and more comfortable for sleeping sideways
Excellent, that sound profile sounds like just my thing. Now for the long wait for shipping, but that's the price we pay for cheap stuff, I suppose. :slight_smile:
 
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