Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[Caipirina]

Amazon.com sales:

- Tranya T3 for $40 after $10 coupon
- Astrotec Motivation (i.e. S80) for $41 at $5 coupon and lightning deal

Update: Amazon.ca deals too:
- Tranya T3 are on $10 coupon for $70 CAD total
- Tranya T1-Pro are on limited time deal for $63 CAD after additional $5 coupon

And amazon.de has the much beloved Bludio T-elf for 21.99€ ... and there is a reason why I am not directly linking

 

[actorlife]

Anbes 360 on sale for $29
Did anyone ever get these?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PHSK44C/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_eqphDbACY4ZTS

 

[vstolpner]

Anbes 360 on sale for $29
Did anyone ever get these?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PHSK44C/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_eqphDbACY4ZTS

Or the Anbes D42 for that matter....

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07L9TBGWD/ref=dp_ob_neva_mobile

 

[hifi80sman]

Or the Anbes D42 for that matter....

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07L9TBGWD/ref=dp_ob_neva_mobile

Love the Anbes naming convention. "Anbes L99" successor to the Anbes D42. Anbes 360, well, that's cheaper and not as good as the Anbes 359, yes the Anbes 358 is a downgrade from the 359. Who is in charge of marketing over there?!

I almost wonder if the "BesDio" (say this with an accent) is a deliberate attempt at self-deprecating humor.

 

[HiFlight]

Just got the Mifo05...beautiful phones and packaging, unfortunately, they have refused to pair together! Back to Amazon.

EDIT:!!! Finally got them paired. Just need to be held close together when removing from case. Sound is very good, Excellent vocals and quite accurate tonal balance. So far, so good.
P.S. I have the Professional model.
P.P.S: Left earbud finally failed completely to pair with the right. No matter what I do, it remains in pairing mode and I only get sound from the right side. So back to Amazon.
Relating it to the auto world, no matter how classy the body, if there is no engine, it is not a good deal!

 

[actorlife]

Love the Anbes naming convention. "Anbes L99" successor to the Anbes D42. Anbes 360, well, that's cheaper and not as good as the Anbes 359, yes the Anbes 358 is a downgrade from the 359. Who is in charge of marketing over there?!

I almost wonder if the "BesDio" (say this with an accent) is a deliberate attempt at self-deprecating humor.

Those 359 cannot be beat especially at the price. Imagine them with aptx and 8hr battery at less than $50? Anbes needs to put out something new hopefully before Xmas. I just turned on a friend to the 359 and he was raving about them.

 

[SilverEars]

Measurement of Jabra Elite 65t

 

[vstolpner]

Just got the Mifo05...beautiful phones and packaging, unfortunately, they have refused to pair together! Back to Amazon.

EDIT:!!! Finally got them paired. Just need to be held close together when removing from case. Sound is very good, Excellent vocals and quite accurate tonal balance. So far, so good.
P.S. I have the Professional model.

You're really going to enjoy them! Mine are awesome, though I am enjoying the stronger base presence from my other dynamic models

 

[FYLegend]

Measurement of Jabra Elite 65t

It's rather different from RTING's measurements, which also show the channel imbalance between both tracks. For me, the bass imbalance is quite obvious on my unit, although this could be down to my own hearing combined with wear and tear. A few posts back I mentioned that the pressure vents and nozzle need to be cleaned after a few months of use, or else the sound will become even more imbalanced.

They also updated the review back in March 26 to mention reports of users getting hissing, but thought it wasn't worse than other devices out there. They also don't mention anything about clipping.

To me, the hissing is bad, but still bearable, what really irks me is the clipping distortion. I had noticed it on the store demo's Jabra Elite 65t Active as well. You won't notice them for upbeat tracks but pianos in particular sound awful. SBC quality on my Note 9 is awful but on my laptop (Asus Zenbook Pro 15) it's pretty close to AAC - just a tad less refined and sounds as if a dynamic compressor was used to make things more punchy. The Astrotec S60 on SBC has a similar issue as well.

 

[mikp]

It's rather different from RTING's measurements, which also show the channel imbalance between both tracks. For me, the bass imbalance is quite obvious on my unit, although this could be down to my own hearing combined with wear and tear. A few posts back I mentioned that the pressure vents and nozzle need to be cleaned after a few months of use, or else the sound will become even more imbalanced.

They also updated the review back in March 26 to mention reports of users getting hissing, but thought it wasn't worse than other devices out there. They also don't mention anything about clipping.

To me, the hissing is bad, but still bearable, what really irks me is the clipping distortion. I had noticed it on the store demo's Jabra Elite 65t Active as well. You won't notice them for upbeat tracks but pianos in particular sound awful. SBC quality on my Note 9 is awful but on my laptop (Asus Zenbook Pro 15) it's pretty close to AAC - just a tad less refined and sounds as if a dynamic compressor was used to make things more punchy. The Astrotec S60 on SBC has a similar issue as well.

how do you clean the vents?

 

[SilverEars]

It's rather different from RTING's measurements, which also show the channel imbalance between both tracks. For me, the bass imbalance is quite obvious on my unit, although this could be down to my own hearing combined with wear and tear. A few posts back I mentioned that the pressure vents and nozzle need to be cleaned after a few months of use, or else the sound will become even more imbalanced.

They also updated the review back in March 26 to mention reports of users getting hissing, but thought it wasn't worse than other devices out there. They also don't mention anything about clipping.

To me, the hissing is bad, but still bearable, what really irks me is the clipping distortion. I had noticed it on the store demo's Jabra Elite 65t Active as well. You won't notice them for upbeat tracks but pianos in particular sound awful. SBC quality on my Note 9 is awful but on my laptop (Asus Zenbook Pro 15) it's pretty close to AAC - just a tad less refined and sounds as if a dynamic compressor was used to make things more punchy. The Astrotec S60 on SBC has a similar issue as well.

That Rting graph is compensated graph, and below is there raw uncompensated one. Which is the one you should compare with mine.



Here are two sets of measurements I've done for left and right. You can see the slight imbalance.

 

[vstolpner]

That Rting graph is compensated graph, and below is there raw uncompensated one. Which is the one you should compare with mine.



Here are two sets of measurements I've done for left and right. You can see the slight imbalance.

How do you do your measurements? Some high end specialized equipment?

 

[SilverEars]

How do you do your measurements? Some high end specialized equipment?

The most important element in the rig is the coupler. You have to get the standarized coupler for precision, and then next is the microphone. I'm not too experience in microphones, but some microphones are better than others, particularly in regards to noise (supposedly gets really costly for those with lowest noise input, if you are doing THD measurements).

GRAS couplers are industry standard, and I'm using IEC 60318-4 (60711) compliant coupler. Something like this



This coupler simulates the human ear. You place the iem in the aperture of this coupler, and on the other end the microphone to measure the sound output. Microphone will need a pre-amp, with maybe a Phantom Power supply (that comes with those cheap sound mixing interfaces). For the iem, you'd plug to a normal sound output device connected to the computer (ie. usb DAC/Amp device, etc.. or optical connection), so that you can set them as output and input device on the measurement software (I use REW).

There's some details in regards to mic calibration and settings you'd have to prepare so that everything is set-up for most accurate measurements. That is the most challenging part, but other than that, it's really easy to figure out. We're all audiophiles, we play with connections all the times.

Here's the thread on measurements.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/general-iem-measurements-discussions.903455/

 

[vstolpner]

The most important element in the rig is the coupler. You have to get the standarized coupler for precision, and then next is the microphone. I'm not too experience in microphones, but some microphones are better than others, particularly in regards to noise (supposedly gets really costly for those with lowest noise input, if you are doing THD measurements).

GRAS couplers are industry standard, and I'm using IEC 60318-4 (60711) compliant coupler. Something like this



This coupler simulates the human ear. You place the iem in the aperture of this coupler, and on the other end the microphone to measure the sound output. Microphone will need a pre-amp, with maybe a Phantom Power supply (that comes with those cheap sound mixing interfaces). For the iem, you'd plug to a normal sound output device connected to the computer (ie. usb DAC/Amp device, etc.. or optical connection), so that you can set them as output and input device on the measurement software (I use REW).

There's some details in regards to mic calibration and settings you'd have to prepare so that everything is set-up for most accurate measurements. That is the most challenging part, but other than that, it's really easy to figure out. We're all audiophiles, we play with connections all the times.

Here's the thread on measurements.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/general-iem-measurements-discussions.903455/

Darn, a little more complicated than I was hoping for :-/

But thanks for the info!

 

[actorlife]

Kissral on sale for $33. They look exactly like the Anbes, but not sure if it's the same SQ. Anybody wanna compare them? Say Yes.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N1GXXFN/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_hOHhDbEV6M5V3