[Calfredo826]

Those faceplates are

And with DMP, it doesn’t get much better

The sub bass and treble on these are in a class of their own. Highly impressive set.

 

[SHOOTINGTECHIE]

Finally had some proper time to listen to the EARSONICS GRACE!!!
And TBH they are really good for the price I got them for

Spoiler

1100 dollars !!!

Initial impressions -
I am not happy with the stock tips, they just didn't deliver that good and i was sad
So i tip rolled (fit also was not perfect with stock tips since i just got a few and S size , i am an ML person)
After a few-( many more i need to tip roll), i found the match-
These were AZLA SEDNA XELASTIC Tips and these just took me by surprise!!

Now coming on to the sound -
The layering is like planars pretty much havent heard any thing similar.
The stage is wide but not tall yet the contrast in the upper end of notes do remain albeight by a good enough margin.
They are pretty dynamic but not something like MEST MK2 where the notes are much more foreward, taller and energetic in the upper frequencies .
These are just a tiny bit north of neutral and dont show much energy anywhere.
Vocals are beautifully balanced and man they are much more better than my daily driver SHOZY POLA.
Imaging is excellent and the separation is decent (but loses to VE8 i had just 3 days with it and i still remember it)
Bass and sub-bass are good for a BA drivers but are neutral with more emphasis on texture, punch and differentiation rather than that DD feel in MEST MK2 or VE8.
Treble is pretty good and energetic yet smooth without being overly bright
Midrange is really good with the full filling notes and lovely vocals, no upper mids glare at all and microdetails are way more musically presented i feel like than even MEST MK2 (but in quantity they are similar)

Well thats my initial impressions haha !!! more comparison to come on after !!!

NOTE- My DAP was N6ii with R01(impressions are with R01) thanks to @MusicTeck and T01 ( I like it more with R01 but T01 gave it some more energy in upper treble sparkle (which is more in my liking) but R01 has that organic feel with good sparkle in treble which doesn't cause fatigue in long sessions, and staging seems better and slowly I am liking it more haha!!! )
Desktop amps trying later on but these are easy to drive about 40 on high gain is too loud for me!!
Special Thanks to @subguy812 , @Deezel177 also nic and @riverground

Upcoming - hehe !!!

 

[Deezel177]

Hey, everyone. Earlier today, I was graced by the arrival of the much, much-awaited Vision Ears EXT. I've spent the past few hours listening intently to them, and here are my thoughts on the in-ear so far:

The first obvious change over the original is the EXT’s elevated low-end, now also powered by a 9.2mm dynamic driver. I recall worries, back when the EXT wasn’t even announced, that augmenting the OG ELYSIUM’s bass would take away from its headlining midrange. Now, I believe those concerns are - to a large degree - untrue. There is a change in the midrange (and the tonality overall) for sure, but not to its detriment; at least, in my opinion. What the low-end change does is give the midrange a much meatier, earthier support, which, to my ears, translates to power and weight. When a vocalist belts, the force - the oomph - coming from their diaphragm and chest are amplified. Whereas, the OG had a lighter, wispier, more effortless quality to its vocal presentation.

If I had to give a rough analogy, the OG ELYSIUM is 19-era Adele singing Chasing Pavements, while the new EXT is 25’s Adele crooning A Million Years Ago. They both have the same quality and clarity to them, but the EXT delivers it with a richer, more mature timbre. To my relief, that aged quality doesn’t translate at all to a veil or wooliness. Again, that gorgeously-textured, evocative midrange is still front-and-centre. It’s just a bit earthier and rooted now. If you’re the type of person to prefer lighter, floatier vocals apparating in the middle of the headspace, you may prefer the OG’s tonality more. But, if you like your vocals with more weight, more impact and more chutzpah, then the EXT is simply a level above.

Now, when it comes to that woofer’s own individual merits, I think it’s one of the most memorable bottom-ends I’ve heard since Empire’s Weapon IX drivers. I don’t mean they’re of the same ilk, necessarily. What I mean is that they both have this character (or flavour) to them that elevates them above the general DD sound. It’s what I personally feel tends to lack on FiR or 64’s DD-equipped in-ears, for example. There’s a certain physicality, texture and slam to this one that keeps it from fading into the background and sounding generic after a while. I was certain of this as soon as I heard Lady Blackbird’s Fix It, and I got chills simply from the low-end coming from the piano’s sustain pedal. Not even the keys; the sustain pedal.

That record’s one of the best-engineered, most stirring records I’ve heard in a while, by the way. Give it a go.



That chill also comes from the EXT’s much denser, more solid, more tactile notes, compared to the OG. As I mentioned a couple times in the past, the ELYSIUM can come off a bit wispy or insubstantial when not powered optimally. Instruments don’t always feel weighted or corporeal. There’s a certain floaty quality I alluded to earlier. The EXT gets rid of the issue completely, to my ears. Instruments on it feel physical and there, for lack of a better word, and that’s true across both my LPGT and my N6ii Ti. And, with DDs fuelling both the lows and mids, I feel that quality here even exceeds that of a properly-powered OG. Aside from the lows, I believe this is the EXT’s most notable change over its predecessor.

Up top, I personally don’t feel the treble’s rolled-off or lacking at all. The OG comes off airier because of its leaner low-end. But, in terms of raw extension, headroom and micro-detail retrieval, the EXT definitely goes tit-for-tat. I initially gave it a go with the default Sedna tips, and I noticed a mid-treble bump around 7-8kHz. I felt it created a slight gap between it and the upper-mids, causing the latter to sound a bit recessed. But, once I switched to the SpinFit’s, that bump vanished, and I immediately heard a much more linear, even-sounding tonality. I’d say upper-treble energy is equal on both, actually. You get the same amount of openness and air. You just get a bit more mid-treble articulation and bite from the Sedna’s.

So, three-or-so hours in, I have to say that I’m personally as in love with the VE EXT as I was with the OG a few years ago. I feel it perfectly addressed any and all shortcomings it once had, and it even went above-and-beyond in certain areas like the timbre and power of the low-end. That, in particular, made this feel like a true successor to me, rather than patchwork or a minor update; again, like a singer ageing and maturing their technique. However, in that vein, just like fans of singers can have their preferred eras, there will inevitably be changes that won’t be universally liked. But, hey, that’s what options are for, and I’m glad that both ELYSIUMs - for the time being - are here to stay.

I’ll be running them in further before I get to work on the full review, and I look forward to reading more impressions around these parts as well. Cheers!

 

[xenithon]

Oh dear @Deezel177 - I really thought I’d make it through the year having been un-enticed by any of the new releases. But dear heavens if you didn’t just describe the type of IEM I’d love to add to the collection as my partner in crime for the bird.

Look forward to further impressions as they come along. In the meantime, how is the stock cable? And how is the fit? I generally like moderate to shallow fit and believe the VE’s tend to be quite a deep fit with long stems?

 

[Rockwell75]

Hey, everyone. Earlier today, I was graced by the arrival of the much, much-awaited Vision Ears EXT. I've spent the past few hours listening intently to them, and here are my thoughts on the in-ear so far:

The first obvious change over the original is the EXT’s elevated low-end, now also powered by a 9.2mm dynamic driver. I recall worries, back when the EXT wasn’t even announced, that augmenting the OG ELYSIUM’s bass would take away from its headlining midrange. Now, I believe those concerns are - to a large degree - untrue. There is a change in the midrange (and the tonality overall) for sure, but not to its detriment; at least, in my opinion. What the low-end change does is give the midrange a much meatier, earthier support, which, to my ears, translates to power and weight. When a vocalist belts, the force - the oomph - coming from their diaphragm and chest are amplified. Whereas, the OG had a lighter, wispier, more effortless quality to its vocal presentation.

If I had to give a rough analogy, the OG ELYSIUM is 19-era Adele singing Chasing Pavements, while the new EXT is 25’s Adele crooning A Million Years Ago. They both have the same quality and clarity to them, but the EXT delivers it with a richer, more mature timbre. To my relief, that aged quality doesn’t translate at all to a veil or wooliness. Again, that gorgeously-textured, evocative midrange is still front-and-centre. It’s just a bit earthier and rooted now. If you’re the type of person to prefer lighter, floatier vocals apparating in the middle of the headspace, you may prefer the OG’s tonality more. But, if you like your vocals with more weight, more impact and more chutzpah, then the EXT is simply a level above.

Now, when it comes to that woofer’s own individual merits, I think it’s one of the most memorable bottom-ends I’ve heard since Empire’s Weapon IX drivers. I don’t mean they’re of the same ilk, necessarily. What I mean is that they both have this character (or flavour) to them that elevates them above the general DD sound. It’s what I personally feel tends to lack on FiR or 64’s DD-equipped in-ears, for example. There’s a certain physicality, texture and slam to this one that keeps it from fading into the background and sounding generic after a while. I was certain of this as soon as I heard Lady Blackbird’s Fix It, and I got chills simply from the low-end coming from the piano’s sustain pedal. Not even the keys; the sustain pedal.

That record’s one of the best-engineered, most stirring records I’ve heard in a while, by the way. Give it a go.



That chill also comes from the EXT’s much denser, more solid, more tactile notes, compared to the OG. As I mentioned a couple times in the past, the ELYSIUM can come off a bit wispy or insubstantial when not powered optimally. Instruments don’t always feel weighted or corporeal. There’s a certain floaty quality I alluded to earlier. The EXT gets rid of the issue completely, to my ears. Instruments on it feel physical and there, for lack of a better word, and that’s true across both my LPGT and my N6ii Ti. And, with DDs fuelling both the lows and mids, I feel that quality here even exceeds that of a properly-powered OG. Aside from the lows, I believe this is the EXT’s most notable change over its predecessor.

Up top, I personally don’t feel the treble’s rolled-off or lacking at all. The OG comes off airier because of its leaner low-end. But, in terms of raw extension, headroom and micro-detail retrieval, the EXT definitely goes tit-for-tat. I initially gave it a go with the default Sedna tips, and I noticed a mid-treble bump around 7-8kHz. I felt it created a slight gap between it and the upper-mids, causing the latter to sound a bit recessed. But, once I switched to the SpinFit’s, that bump vanished, and I immediately heard a much more linear, even-sounding tonality. I’d say upper-treble energy is equal on both, actually. You get the same amount of openness and air. You just get a bit more mid-treble articulation and bite from the Sedna’s.

So, three-or-so hours in, I have to say that I’m personally as in love with the VE EXT as I was with the OG a few years ago. I feel it perfectly addressed any and all shortcomings it once had, and it even went above-and-beyond in certain areas like the timbre and power of the low-end. That, in particular, made this feel like a true successor to me, rather than patchwork or a minor update; again, like a singer ageing and maturing their technique. However, in that vein, just like fans of singers can have their preferred eras, there will inevitably be changes that won’t be universally liked. But, hey, that’s what options are for, and I’m glad that both ELYSIUMs - for the time being - are here to stay.

I’ll be running them in further before I get to work on the full review, and I look forward to reading more impressions around these parts as well. Cheers!

I've been avoiding reading impressions of these so I can hear them for myself with as little bias as possible...but I couldn't resist reading yours. Suffice to say I'm very excited to hear the EXT for myself

 

[aaf evo]

Yeah I’m pretty sure I’m going to blind buy the EXT. I just wish we knew when resellers were getting them. I don’t feel like paying for another IEM with no definite release date yet.

 

[Deezel177]

Oh dear @Deezel177 - I really thought it make it through the year having been un-enticed by any of the new releases. But dear heavens if you didn’t just describe the type of IEM I’d love to add to the collection as my partner in crime for the bird.

Look forward to further impressions as they come along. In the meantime, how is the stock cable? And how is the fit? I generally like moderate to shallow fit and believe the VE’s tend to be quite a deep fit with long stems?

I was actually pretty surprised by how nice the stock cable is. It's not too dissimilar from the ELYSIUM's, but it's got this matte-black sheathing to it, so it doesn't have the plasticky, PVC-ish feel the OG's had. All of the hardware's been finished with a matte-black as well, so it's a uniform look. The plug, in particular, doesn't have the stock Oyaide barrel the OG's did. Instead, it's been engraved with VE's logo in a hex/X pattern, which runs through all the accessories you get with the EXT as well.

Here's a photo I'm borrowing off of MusicTeck.

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It also comes with a matching 4.4mm adapter, which, I must say, looks mighty fine.

​

Fit-wise, they're pretty interesting. They're probably most like the Erlkonig, but they aren't shaped like any of VE's previous universals. It's somewhat of a semi-custom shape. I took pictures of it next to the Fourté Noir and the EE Wraith below:

​

So, in terms of depth, they're fairly similar to the Noir. But, as you can see in the 2nd photo, they're a lot more anatomically correct. I've drawn arrows pointing to bumps in the canal and concha area, which, on most UIEMs nowadays, are usually streamlined into straight lines for a smaller, "easier" shape. This means that, unlike the Noir, the EXT isn't an in-ear I can just jam into my ears straight-on. I have to finagle them slightly like a custom. But, once they're in, they're about as comfy as a CIEM to my ears, which, given my oft-described-as "twisty" canals, is pretty impressive. They also don't create pressure anywhere, unlike the EVE20 or the universal ELYSIUM, which were a bit too tall for a lot of ears.

I think this one will be a lot more forgiving than their previous designs, so there shouldn't be any concern there, I hope. Of course, we'll get a better idea once more people get their ears on them.

 

[Deezel177]

Yeah I’m pretty sure I’m going to blind buy the EXT. I just wish we knew when resellers were getting them. I don’t feel like paying for another IEM with no definite release date yet.

I think MusicTeck should be getting theirs very soon, considering VE just shipped a whole bunch to retailers and reviewers. Alex got his a couple days ago, and he and MusicTeck are pretty much neighbours. Their website also says the estimated shipping date is end of September 2021, so it's very likely.

 

[jwilliamhurst]

Hey, everyone. Earlier today, I was graced by the arrival of the much, much-awaited Vision Ears EXT. I've spent the past few hours listening intently to them, and here are my thoughts on the in-ear so far:

The first obvious change over the original is the EXT’s elevated low-end, now also powered by a 9.2mm dynamic driver. I recall worries, back when the EXT wasn’t even announced, that augmenting the OG ELYSIUM’s bass would take away from its headlining midrange. Now, I believe those concerns are - to a large degree - untrue. There is a change in the midrange (and the tonality overall) for sure, but not to its detriment; at least, in my opinion. What the low-end change does is give the midrange a much meatier, earthier support, which, to my ears, translates to power and weight. When a vocalist belts, the force - the oomph - coming from their diaphragm and chest are amplified. Whereas, the OG had a lighter, wispier, more effortless quality to its vocal presentation.

If I had to give a rough analogy, the OG ELYSIUM is 19-era Adele singing Chasing Pavements, while the new EXT is 25’s Adele crooning A Million Years Ago. They both have the same quality and clarity to them, but the EXT delivers it with a richer, more mature timbre. To my relief, that aged quality doesn’t translate at all to a veil or wooliness. Again, that gorgeously-textured, evocative midrange is still front-and-centre. It’s just a bit earthier and rooted now. If you’re the type of person to prefer lighter, floatier vocals apparating in the middle of the headspace, you may prefer the OG’s tonality more. But, if you like your vocals with more weight, more impact and more chutzpah, then the EXT is simply a level above.

Now, when it comes to that woofer’s own individual merits, I think it’s one of the most memorable bottom-ends I’ve heard since Empire’s Weapon IX drivers. I don’t mean they’re of the same ilk, necessarily. What I mean is that they both have this character (or flavour) to them that elevates them above the general DD sound. It’s what I personally feel tends to lack on FiR or 64’s DD-equipped in-ears, for example. There’s a certain physicality, texture and slam to this one that keeps it from fading into the background and sounding generic after a while. I was certain of this as soon as I heard Lady Blackbird’s Fix It, and I got chills simply from the low-end coming from the piano’s sustain pedal. Not even the keys; the sustain pedal.

That record’s one of the best-engineered, most stirring records I’ve heard in a while, by the way. Give it a go.



That chill also comes from the EXT’s much denser, more solid, more tactile notes, compared to the OG. As I mentioned a couple times in the past, the ELYSIUM can come off a bit wispy or insubstantial when not powered optimally. Instruments don’t always feel weighted or corporeal. There’s a certain floaty quality I alluded to earlier. The EXT gets rid of the issue completely, to my ears. Instruments on it feel physical and there, for lack of a better word, and that’s true across both my LPGT and my N6ii Ti. And, with DDs fuelling both the lows and mids, I feel that quality here even exceeds that of a properly-powered OG. Aside from the lows, I believe this is the EXT’s most notable change over its predecessor.

Up top, I personally don’t feel the treble’s rolled-off or lacking at all. The OG comes off airier because of its leaner low-end. But, in terms of raw extension, headroom and micro-detail retrieval, the EXT definitely goes tit-for-tat. I initially gave it a go with the default Sedna tips, and I noticed a mid-treble bump around 7-8kHz. I felt it created a slight gap between it and the upper-mids, causing the latter to sound a bit recessed. But, once I switched to the SpinFit’s, that bump vanished, and I immediately heard a much more linear, even-sounding tonality. I’d say upper-treble energy is equal on both, actually. You get the same amount of openness and air. You just get a bit more mid-treble articulation and bite from the Sedna’s.

So, three-or-so hours in, I have to say that I’m personally as in love with the VE EXT as I was with the OG a few years ago. I feel it perfectly addressed any and all shortcomings it once had, and it even went above-and-beyond in certain areas like the timbre and power of the low-end. That, in particular, made this feel like a true successor to me, rather than patchwork or a minor update; again, like a singer ageing and maturing their technique. However, in that vein, just like fans of singers can have their preferred eras, there will inevitably be changes that won’t be universally liked. But, hey, that’s what options are for, and I’m glad that both ELYSIUMs - for the time being - are here to stay.

I’ll be running them in further before I get to work on the full review, and I look forward to reading more impressions around these parts as well. Cheers!

Great impressions, def more excited for this one now.
and I LOVE THAT ALBUM! Been listening non stop on repeat since it was released. It sounds sublime with Isabellae and rhapsodio eden. Can’t wait to hear it with EXT!

 

[blotmouse]

Great impressions, def more excited for this one now.
and I LOVE THAT ALBUM! Been listening non stop on repeat since it was released. It sounds sublime with Isabellae and rhapsodio eden. Can’t wait to hear it with EXT!

Yeah, I am listening right now, actually. And it's not even close to what I normally listen to. Just a great release.
I dig it on the Noir/1960s the most from what I have currently.
Maybe @Deezel177 would be kind enough to comment on EXT/ Noir differences on this album's presentation?

 

[HiFiHawaii808]

Hey, everyone. Earlier today, I was graced by the arrival of the much, much-awaited Vision Ears EXT. I've spent the past few hours listening intently to them, and here are my thoughts on the in-ear so far:

The first obvious change over the original is the EXT’s elevated low-end, now also powered by a 9.2mm dynamic driver. I recall worries, back when the EXT wasn’t even announced, that augmenting the OG ELYSIUM’s bass would take away from its headlining midrange. Now, I believe those concerns are - to a large degree - untrue. There is a change in the midrange (and the tonality overall) for sure, but not to its detriment; at least, in my opinion. What the low-end change does is give the midrange a much meatier, earthier support, which, to my ears, translates to power and weight. When a vocalist belts, the force - the oomph - coming from their diaphragm and chest are amplified. Whereas, the OG had a lighter, wispier, more effortless quality to its vocal presentation.

If I had to give a rough analogy, the OG ELYSIUM is 19-era Adele singing Chasing Pavements, while the new EXT is 25’s Adele crooning A Million Years Ago. They both have the same quality and clarity to them, but the EXT delivers it with a richer, more mature timbre. To my relief, that aged quality doesn’t translate at all to a veil or wooliness. Again, that gorgeously-textured, evocative midrange is still front-and-centre. It’s just a bit earthier and rooted now. If you’re the type of person to prefer lighter, floatier vocals apparating in the middle of the headspace, you may prefer the OG’s tonality more. But, if you like your vocals with more weight, more impact and more chutzpah, then the EXT is simply a level above.

Now, when it comes to that woofer’s own individual merits, I think it’s one of the most memorable bottom-ends I’ve heard since Empire’s Weapon IX drivers. I don’t mean they’re of the same ilk, necessarily. What I mean is that they both have this character (or flavour) to them that elevates them above the general DD sound. It’s what I personally feel tends to lack on FiR or 64’s DD-equipped in-ears, for example. There’s a certain physicality, texture and slam to this one that keeps it from fading into the background and sounding generic after a while. I was certain of this as soon as I heard Lady Blackbird’s Fix It, and I got chills simply from the low-end coming from the piano’s sustain pedal. Not even the keys; the sustain pedal.

That record’s one of the best-engineered, most stirring records I’ve heard in a while, by the way. Give it a go.



That chill also comes from the EXT’s much denser, more solid, more tactile notes, compared to the OG. As I mentioned a couple times in the past, the ELYSIUM can come off a bit wispy or insubstantial when not powered optimally. Instruments don’t always feel weighted or corporeal. There’s a certain floaty quality I alluded to earlier. The EXT gets rid of the issue completely, to my ears. Instruments on it feel physical and there, for lack of a better word, and that’s true across both my LPGT and my N6ii Ti. And, with DDs fuelling both the lows and mids, I feel that quality here even exceeds that of a properly-powered OG. Aside from the lows, I believe this is the EXT’s most notable change over its predecessor.

Up top, I personally don’t feel the treble’s rolled-off or lacking at all. The OG comes off airier because of its leaner low-end. But, in terms of raw extension, headroom and micro-detail retrieval, the EXT definitely goes tit-for-tat. I initially gave it a go with the default Sedna tips, and I noticed a mid-treble bump around 7-8kHz. I felt it created a slight gap between it and the upper-mids, causing the latter to sound a bit recessed. But, once I switched to the SpinFit’s, that bump vanished, and I immediately heard a much more linear, even-sounding tonality. I’d say upper-treble energy is equal on both, actually. You get the same amount of openness and air. You just get a bit more mid-treble articulation and bite from the Sedna’s.

So, three-or-so hours in, I have to say that I’m personally as in love with the VE EXT as I was with the OG a few years ago. I feel it perfectly addressed any and all shortcomings it once had, and it even went above-and-beyond in certain areas like the timbre and power of the low-end. That, in particular, made this feel like a true successor to me, rather than patchwork or a minor update; again, like a singer ageing and maturing their technique. However, in that vein, just like fans of singers can have their preferred eras, there will inevitably be changes that won’t be universally liked. But, hey, that’s what options are for, and I’m glad that both ELYSIUMs - for the time being - are here to stay.

I’ll be running them in further before I get to work on the full review, and I look forward to reading more impressions around these parts as well. Cheers!

Fantastic initial review. I am excited about these IEMs. I am most intrigued to hear how the combination of DD bass and mids works with the EST drivers. I really love dynamic driver timbre. I have a 3DT and Isabellae and they both really shine in natural instrumental timbre. I want to see if this EXT delivers that same quality in an IEM that has much better bass and treble extension. I really love the sound of the Isabellae, but listening to it after I listen to EVO, it sounds like it is missing a lot of extension. Can you comment on the naturalness of the timbre specifically in the mids and how coherent it is in achieving extension both for bass and treble? thanks.

 

[twister6]

@twister6, any chance of posting impressions here for those of us who aren't on FB?

I will upload the unboxing EXT video on Tw6 and share the link here once I get home after work. Regarding impressions, the one I mentioned out of the box on FB are no longer valid since the sound has changed after 2 days of burn in (we are talking about massive 9.2mm DD for lows and modest 6mm DD for mids) So, instead of copying those, let me revisit it tonight after I collect the next round of listening notes.

Regarding the shell design, I do want to mention, EXT shells do look like very much custom-universal. The nozzle tip itself is oval, about 7mm x 6mm, and the shape is angled because all 4 EST drivers are in the nozzle base. Original Ely has BA lows, DD mids, and ESTs highs, fitted inside of a slim universal shell. EXT replaces a small BA bass driver with a massive 9.2mm DD, so there is no room for quad ESTs in the shell anymore. But despite a rather "custom" looking nozzle shape, relative to my ears the fit is excellent. I talked to Amin and he mentioned they put a lot of work into the shell design, it was definitely challenging to fit everything in and keep the shell slim. But everything will be relative to your ear anatomy, especially for those who can only stomach slim nozzles with small size eartips.

 

[Scubadevils]

Great to hear impressions of EXT, I love single DDs so absolutely intrigued as to what a double with ESTs will sound like... it'll be a toss up of EVO vs EXT for my next!

 

[HiFiHawaii808]

Great to hear impressions of EXT, I love single DDs so absolutely intrigued as to what a double with ESTs will sound like... it'll be a toss up of EVO vs EXT for my next!

I was hoping that the EXT would be more mids focused than I am seeing from the initial impressions. I am wondering if there is too much overlap between EVO and EXT.

 

[snowy8171]

Yeah I’m pretty sure I’m going to blind buy the EXT. I just wish we knew when resellers were getting them. I don’t feel like paying for another IEM with no definite release date yet.

lol, i went ahead and did. from VEs post it should be every week or so after the demo units were shipped. just depends on how many each week