[youngsm10]

FI-BA-SS VS LAB1.Thoughts?

Very different beasts in my opinion. The fi-ba-ss is the king of detail and raw emotion. The Lab 1 is technically very good and no doubt a top performer but I feel it is a safer sound prob a better all rounder, but for me it cannot generate the emotion and excitement in the music that the fi-ba-ss does.

Just my opinion

 

[james444]

FI-BA-SS VS LAB1.Thoughts?

 
Very different. FI-BA-SS is the drama queen: lean, raw, and somewhat high-pitched. LAB1 is the grand seigneur: corpulent, relaxed, and somewhat dark-ish.

 

[james444]

Very different beasts in my opinion. The fi-ba-ss is the king of detail and raw emotion. The Lab 1 is technically very good and no doubt a top performer but I feel it is a safer sound prob a better all rounder, but for me it cannot generate the emotion and excitement in the music that the fi-ba-ss does.

Just my opinion

 
You beat me lol.

 

[HarryH2O]

Lab 1, eh? Now to get it I need to first sell my Heaven VII, and a kidney.

 

[Kiats]

Agree with youngsm10 and James444.

 

[audio123]

Very different beasts in my opinion. The fi-ba-ss is the king of detail and raw emotion. The Lab 1 is technically very good and no doubt a top performer but I feel it is a safer sound prob a better all rounder, but for me it cannot generate the emotion and excitement in the music that the fi-ba-ss does.

Just my opinion

 

   
Very different. FI-BA-SS is the drama queen: lean, raw, and somewhat high-pitched. LAB1 is the grand seigneur: corpulent, relaxed, and somewhat dark-ish.

yeah thats what i thought. fi-ba-ss has a raw feeling more emotions conveyed as compared to lab1 sweet and musical sound

 

[lelutas]

Hello to all,
 
just got back from a trip, where I had a chance to demo Heaven V-B. I was impressed. So much impressed, that now I want one )  The only reason I didn't buy it is that I wanted to try out Heaven VI or VII which were not available. I've read everything in this thread regarding the differences between these and it appears that they are quite similar in their sound signature. The only difference I care about is which one of these earphones would be less sibilant? If something can kill an earphone for me, it's ssssibilance and resonating peak at around 5-7KHz.
As some of you mentioned, listening to Heaven V you can detect some sibilance with brighter recordings, but definitely very very little. It does everything else so well, that I'm ready to let it slide, I guess
I have tried quite a few IEMS lately and it appears, that either you get that peak at around 5-7KHz which makes IEM sound harsh an too bright or you get so called "rolled of highs" and "not fatiguing" sound which in either case does not sound natural or musical to me.
Any help and advice would be appreciated.

 

[evolutionx]

   
Very different. FI-BA-SS is the drama queen: lean, raw, and somewhat high-pitched. LAB1 is the grand seigneur: corpulent, relaxed, and somewhat dark-ish.

Spot on description.   I can listen to Lab 1 for hours.  Not so for FI-BA-SS.   

 

[dallan]

I can listen to them both for hours. They both have their own draw. I chose the Lab1 for overall sound but for light, easy, out and about I like the fibass. It has a less noisy cord which is also lighter and the open headphone hd800 sound can also be addictive.

 

[evolutionx]

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I can listen to them both for hours. They both have their own draw. I chose the Lab1 for overall sound but for light, easy, out and about I like the fibass. It has a less noisy cord which is also lighter and the open headphone hd800 sound can also be addictive.

I guess I prefer warm sounding kind of sound signature.  Thats why I don't take to HD800.   Prefer HE1K and Audeze LCDs.   I use the Lab 1 with Cowon Plenue D for my morning walks and they sound great!

 

[dallan]

Yeah, I usually use them with the chord mojo now. Occasionally with the Hugobut that is less portable. Mojo is much warmer than Hugo but a step down in dynamics and detail. The warmness suits the Finals.

 

[audio123]

Yeah, I usually use them with the chord mojo now. Occasionally with the Hugobut that is less portable. Mojo is much warmer than Hugo but a step down in dynamics and detail. The warmness suits the Finals.

personally i dont think the synergy betweem mojo and final audio design iems is good.It will destroy the magic of fad sound signature bc u r trying to change the sound

 

[eddyheadphone]

I own final audio design lab 1. It is amazing, but sometimes I really want to try a CIEM. Hope I will find someone to trade in someday, lol!

 

[james444]

  Hello to all,
 
just got back from a trip, where I had a chance to demo Heaven V-B. I was impressed. So much impressed, that now I want one )  The only reason I didn't buy it is that I wanted to try out Heaven VI or VII which were not available. I've read everything in this thread regarding the differences between these and it appears that they are quite similar in their sound signature. The only difference I care about is which one of these earphones would be less sibilant? If something can kill an earphone for me, it's ssssibilance and resonating peak at around 5-7KHz.
As some of you mentioned, listening to Heaven V you can detect some sibilance with brighter recordings, but definitely very very little. It does everything else so well, that I'm ready to let it slide, I guess
I have tried quite a few IEMS lately and it appears, that either you get that peak at around 5-7KHz which makes IEM sound harsh an too bright or you get so called "rolled of highs" and "not fatiguing" sound which in either case does not sound natural or musical to me.
Any help and advice would be appreciated.

 
Out of the IEMs mentioned, I only have the Heaven VII, which have smooth treble and no sibilance problem to my ears. That said, according to Rin's measurements of the Heaven V, these shouldn't be sibilant either, unless you're wearing them with a too shallow fit (see: "ON SECOND THOUGHT #1"). Chance is, that pushing them in a little deeper than you've been demoing them (possibly try smaller tips!), will reduce sibilance further or eliminate it completely.
 
One more tip: if you get just a little bit of sibilance with IEMs, even with the best fit you an manage, then use one or two layers of teabag-filters (as shown in this post, scroll down to "nozzle damping") to get rid of it entirely without compromising detail resolution.

 

[lelutas]

   
Out of the IEMs mentioned, I only have the Heaven VII, which have smooth treble and no sibilance problem to my ears. That said, according to Rin's measurements of the Heaven V, these shouldn't be sibilant either, unless you're wearing them with a too shallow fit (see: "ON SECOND THOUGHT #1"). Chance is, that pushing them in a little deeper than you've been demoing them (possibly try smaller tips!), will reduce sibilance further or eliminate it completely.
 
One more tip: if you get just a little bit of sibilance with IEMs, even with the best fit you an manage, then use one or two layers of teabag-filters (as shown in this post, scroll down to "nozzle damping") to get rid of it entirely without compromising detail resolution.

Thanks for your advice!
Maybe the sibilance or perceived brightness on some recordings was because of the wrong tips. They did not have the original FAD tip selection, only the medium sized ones with wide openings. The seal was good, because the bass response was good, but as you said, the insertion depth might have been wrong.
I will try the teabag mod with my Sennheiser IE7s (These are the IEMs I want to replace with Heavens) though I have already tried something similar using my wife's hose material ) It seemed to make it even more harsh. We'll see- the teabags might work.
But I want FADs anyway! )