[destrozer]

Where does it claim that it's FAD? I don't see it. Besides, there are many respectable Chinese IEMs, so disparaging all Chinese made audio products as 'cheap' is uncalled for.

 
Dude, with all honesty, I think he was referring to this post. Also, I don't think he meant all Chinese made audio products are cheap. The imitation sold here is really a fraction of the original price, hence "cheap".
 

Is this a real Forte x??? At $260???

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Gold-Color-For-Final-Audio-Design-Piano-Forte-X-G-In-ear-Hifi-Earphone-Headset/2035594346.html?

 

[HarryH2O]

Dude, with all honesty, I think he was referring to this post. Also, I don't think he meant all Chinese made audio products are cheap. The imitation sold here is really a fraction of the original price, hence "cheap".

Fair enough, then he should quote the original post to avoid confusion, otherwise people are going to presume he's talking about the last pertinent post.

And since I got my genuine Heaven VII for $260, and the recent Massdrop for FIBASS was for $550, we know that FAD's high price is mostly due to fat margin. It's not like their production cost is anywhere close to the retail price.

 

[Antihippy]

Production costs aren't the only factor going into pricing and retail. Supply and demand, r&d and a whole host of other factors are considered, and if you judge by production cost 99% of audiophile products are grossly overpriced.

 

[AndrewPetrakos]

http://final-audio-design.com/en/archives/2759

Fresh from the oven Sonoous II and III.

 

[HarryH2O]

Heaven V Aging is on Massdrop. $260. Maybe drop to $240, plus shipping.

 

[peareye]

Fair enough, then he should quote the original post to avoid confusion, otherwise people are going to presume he's talking about the last pertinent post.

And since I got my genuine Heaven VII for $260, and the recent Massdrop for FIBASS was for $550, we know that FAD's high price is mostly due to fat margin. It's not like their production cost is anywhere close to the retail price.

So how do you like to sound of these?

 

[HarryH2O]

So how do you like to sound of these?

I don't have the FIBASS, just the H7. It's beautifully crafted, lovely mids, and never sibilant. Bass is decent but the basshead in me want even more bass, so I have a pair of Zero Audio Carbo Basso on order.

Different IEMs for different tunes.

 

[peareye]

Are you using the tips that came with it or something else?
 
i do enjoy the Heaven V...but i had to experiment with different tips...sound nice with Spinfits.

 

[HarryH2O]

Are you using the tips that came with it or something else?

i do enjoy the Heaven V...but i had to experiment with different tips...sound nice with Spinfits.

I use Sony hybrid tips. The seal is so good it 'pops' every time I pull them out!

 

[BartSimpson1976]

 
Are you using the tips that came with it or something else?


 


i do enjoy the Heaven V...but i had to experiment with different tips...sound nice with Spinfits.

I ditched the SpinFits on Heaven V. Didn't work for me. Using JVC Spiral Dot tips now. Works great for me!

 

[peareye]

i have tried neither of these...but willing to try....
 
any particular model number or just sizes like s,m,l?
 
 
what do they do different than the Spinfits?
 
by the way, i do experience the slow sliding out of my ears when using these!

 

[BartSimpson1976]

Spiral Dots stay better in my ears. For me surface of the SpinFits was too slippery so I did not achieve seal,
The SpiralDots are spot on! They even have sizes between (S, SM, M, ML, L) - well at least in Japan.
Here in Singapore they only sell Size M which luckily works fien for me.

Funny thing is that SpinFits worked good for me when I used them on the ATH-IM50.

 

[peareye]

I think i am going to try each of these....i definitely get tired of the slipping...i have to re-adjust about once a minute at the gym....
 
 
they're fine when i am sitting still...
 
 
also hoping these reduce some of the higher frequency detail....i hear a good balance in the Heaven V but
 
the details in the Heaven VIII are a little distracting when trying to listen to the overall song.

 

[HarryH2O]

I ditched the stock tips (well, put them back in the box). They're alright, but not very comfortable. May slide out over time.

Tried and gave up on SpinFits. Pretty to look at, but bad seal causes bass loss. Also, if I insert them too deep, they bend too much and get pinched, causing sound to be muffled.

I like Comply. Very comfortable but they seem flimsy so I handle them gingerly. Very expensive for something that looks like they're going to tear up at any time. Great seal if you have the patience to push them way in and wait a few seconds for the foam to expand and fill up your ear canal.

Sony hybrids are great too. They have both foam and silicone, resulting in comfort and durability - best of both world I guess. I get excellent seal using Sony hybrids on my H7.

At this point, it is a toss up between Comply and Sony hybrid for me. Being in the U.S., Comply is more accessible for me, so I may end up using them more. All that Amazon JP/Rakuten/Tenso maneuver gets old after a while.

I read about the JVC. I may try them in the future.

 

[peareye]

The complys were not what i was looking for. They did fall apart too soon and removed about half the highs....
 
At least they didnt fall out!
 
Definitely going to try the JVC and Sony tips...and who knows: they might just do the trick.