FiiO E17 "ALPEN" - First Impression + Final Thought
Feb 29, 2012 at 10:15 PM Post #1,982 of 6,777
So tempted... Looking forward to more comparisons between this and the Audinst HUD-MX1.  Sounds like I have some time to make a decision at least...
 
Just concerned about driving the HD580s w/ this
 
Mar 1, 2012 at 1:43 AM Post #1,983 of 6,777


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1: yes. you would need to use the FiiO L7 to bypass teh E17's amp and use as a DAC. the FiiO L7 also works with the E7. Make sure to use the LO bypass switch on the E17.
 
 
 



Now i'm ultimately confused, you must switch LO bypass to use the E17 as a DAC? Even if its just PC->optical cable->Headphones?
Or is that only when you're using the L7?

****Just did more research, I guess its only when you're docking it.*****

I wish they made this clear in the instructions.  
 
Mar 1, 2012 at 4:15 AM Post #1,984 of 6,777
 
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@weitn this is exactly what i wanna do in the future. Other users have had a hard time telling apart and justifiying half thousand or more dedicated dACs so i just wanna use the e17 as one with l7. Fo u have exp with other dacs.? Comparisson?


Sorry. I never own any other DAC. Thus, can't do any comparison.
 
For now, E17 is good enough for me. I listened to Pop, soul, reggae fusion, R&B and dance most of the time. I think is hard to tell the difference with these type of genre compare to classical or ochestra. Even if I could tell the difference, most probably the difference won't be significant. Thus, it is hard to justify spending few hundreds for another DAC when I already have the E17.
 
Mar 1, 2012 at 4:19 AM Post #1,985 of 6,777


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So tempted... Looking forward to more comparisons between this and the Audinst HUD-MX1.  Sounds like I have some time to make a decision at least...
 
Just concerned about driving the HD580s w/ this

Just a snippet from headfonia
 
 
E17 VERSUS AUDINST HUD MX1
Tonally they are a bit similar with their dark and warm sound signature. Technically the E17 is very good, but the Audinst is still better, though the difference is now closer than it was compared to the E10. The Audinst has been a long time favorite of mine, due to its simple design, affordable price, and overall good sound quality. However, this time the E17 again shines due to the way it does midrange: full, clear and sweet (don’t we all love full, clear and sweet sounding midrange?). The Audinst’s midrange is not as bad as the E7 and the E9 (or both of them combined), but it’s still not as good as the E17 or the E10′s midrange.


 
 
Mar 1, 2012 at 9:35 AM Post #1,986 of 6,777
One interesting question, 
 
SONY's D50 is very popular in Chinese market and regarded as one of the best portable audio device. but it seems that it is not popular in head-fi.
 
But D50 does supports 96k/24bit WAV and support digital output through optical output.
 
 
 
 
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Mar 1, 2012 at 9:39 AM Post #1,987 of 6,777


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One interesting question, 
 
SONY's D50 is very popular in Chinese market and regarded as one of the best portable audio device. but it seems that it is not popular in head-fi.
 
But D50 does supports 96k/24bit WAV and support digital output through optical output.
 
 
 


Digital out? Why was I not informed of this earlier? 
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Mar 1, 2012 at 9:51 AM Post #1,988 of 6,777
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665760564#specifications
 
Listed on the specifications:
 
Line Output (Optical) : Output imped: 220 ohms, Load imped: 22 k ohm. Digital = Output level: -21dBm to -15 dBm
 
 
The only question is PCM-D50 is not longer available in US, but it is available in China, also SONY China promoted it as a portable music player in 2011 because they found so many 
 
chinese people buy it for music but not for record, LOL.
 
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Mar 1, 2012 at 10:02 AM Post #1,989 of 6,777


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http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665760564#specifications
 
Listed on the specifications:
 
Line Output (Optical) : Output imped: 220 ohms, Load imped: 22 k ohm. Digital = Output level: -21dBm to -15 dBm
 
 
The only question is PCM-D50 is not longer available in US, but it is available in China, also SONY China promoted it as a portable music player in 2011 because they found so many 
 
chinese people buy it for music but not for record, LOL.


$479 and accepts 32GB MicroSD? Cool.
 
 
Mar 1, 2012 at 10:06 AM Post #1,990 of 6,777


Quote:
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665760564#specifications
 
Listed on the specifications:
 
Line Output (Optical) : Output imped: 220 ohms, Load imped: 22 k ohm. Digital = Output level: -21dBm to -15 dBm
 
 
The only question is PCM-D50 is not longer available in US, but it is available in China, also SONY China promoted it as a portable music player in 2011 because they found so many 
 
chinese people buy it for music but not for record, LOL.



Interesting! But I guess it's quite expensive...
Still looking for some portable digital source.
 
Also, my laptop's fan is so noisy...my open cans can't block that annoying sound from it :frowning2:
 
Mar 1, 2012 at 10:44 AM Post #1,991 of 6,777
Can anyone tell me if an IEEE1394 port or "firewire" cable can be used with the line in adapter to supply a 24/192 signal to the E17?

I already have an E7/E9 combo and want to upgrade; but my Dell Latitude does not have an optical or SPDIF port.

Thanks for any help.

Mike
 
Mar 1, 2012 at 10:49 AM Post #1,992 of 6,777
Mar 1, 2012 at 5:14 PM Post #1,995 of 6,777

i get that too, wonder if it's because my iphone has no reception in my building so it was on Edge.  it sounds just like those speakers from the old days that are not magnetically shielded.
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Hmm... When I connect the L9 to my iPhone I occasionally hear some crackling noise... You know, the same ones you hear when your radio gets bad signals.
Anyone has experience with this? I was wondering maybe it's caused by my phone's wifi...? It's pretty annoying especially when wearing IEMs. It occurs sometimes even when wifi is off.



 
 

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