Sep 5, 2019 at 2:38 PM Post #3,571 of 5,210
Great song for Roland:

Well since I'm getting Roland, beater should be as budget as possible. KZ ZS10 pro came to mind. That kind of cheap :)
But they have to be really comfortable because I oftenly fall asleep listening to music. But not as small as Tin Hifi P1, due to their size P1 kept falling out of my ears, aside that I hated their sound signature.
Watch latest BGGAR review on UTC. He says better than zs10p
 
Sep 5, 2019 at 2:40 PM Post #3,572 of 5,210
Only use the Copper cable. anything silver, even a hybrid (copper/silver) or plated will be harsh. Burn the iem in with high volume EDM, and get some spiral dots, a size smaller than you usually wear.
This iem does female vocals exceptionally well, so don't let the price fool you, they hold up against other TOTL's very well. Don't know how they will do against the Shure Electrostats, but you might just be surprised.
cool, i have spiral dots but not yet full copper cable. Kinda promising since it should a fast iem. Another route is EE EVR.
 
Sep 5, 2019 at 2:53 PM Post #3,573 of 5,210
im a driver believer. Planar is faster than DD and it can be BAs too. By faster here is detail on tracks when a lot of things playing at the same time. Since i have isine20, i know how planar handles it. This is quite tempting when the midbass happens to be fast so it doesnt get bloated to vocals. This is getting harder.
I've had both the isine20 and have CL2. Just make sure you give the CL2 lots of burn in and feed it plenty of power. It's a freaking steal for $500. Much more powerful bass and much faster than the isine20 and without most of the idiosyncracies but with the same planar timbre.
 
Sep 5, 2019 at 2:56 PM Post #3,574 of 5,210
cool, i have spiral dots but not yet full copper cable. Kinda promising since it should a fast iem. Another route is EE EVR.
I have been listening to the CL2 non stop for the last 4weeks, so much so that my full size speaker system is getting ignored. They are very good, once you get the tips and cable sorted out, you should be good to go.
Don't know much about The Empire Ears :frowning2:
 
Sep 5, 2019 at 2:57 PM Post #3,575 of 5,210
I have been listening to the CL2 non stop for the last 4weeks, so much so that my full size speaker system is getting ignored. They are very good, once you get the tips and cable sorted out, you should be good to go.
Don't know much about The Empire Ears :frowning2:
Ok cool, i dont need to spend $2k on KSE then. I hope i will return the KSE!
 
Sep 5, 2019 at 2:59 PM Post #3,576 of 5,210
I have been listening to the CL2 non stop for the last 4weeks, so much so that my full size speaker system is getting ignored. They are very good, once you get the tips and cable sorted out, you should be good to go.
Don't know much about The Empire Ears :frowning2:
what copper cable did u use?
 
Sep 5, 2019 at 3:08 PM Post #3,578 of 5,210
Sep 5, 2019 at 3:14 PM Post #3,579 of 5,210
I ended up with the PW AUDIO limited , that was recommended on the CL2 thread. I am sure other cheaper options would work.
https://www.mtmtaudio.com/collections/pw-audio/products/pw-audio-limited-headphone-upgrade-cable
Meanwhile, im just thinking of this https://www.amazon.com/EDOG-Upgrade...er+mmcx&qid=1567709923&s=gateway&sr=8-14&th=1
but i still have 2-3 more copper cable laying around at home. But not sure it was pure or hybrid.
 
Sep 5, 2019 at 4:06 PM Post #3,580 of 5,210
i can't read all of this but just a note on ESTs and vocals

high C—like, soprano, very high, you don't go much higher than this C—is just at 1kHz. i can't find the sonion spec sheet for their ESTs, but i do doubt that they're taking care of anything that low, let alone lower.
 
Sep 5, 2019 at 8:06 PM Post #3,582 of 5,210
Well that was quick. You guys are a lot faster than me on the forum I administer.

@Hawaiibadboy how would you say the Roland's signature compares to the it04. You've unboxed them, and I consider them to be sort of a reference "audiophile" tuning without that's not really harmanesque but based on.... Audiophile stereo types I guess? Similar but technically superior? Or different in many ways?
 
Sep 6, 2019 at 1:04 AM Post #3,583 of 5,210
Well that was quick. You guys are a lot faster than me on the forum I administer.

@Hawaiibadboy how would you say the Roland's signature compares to the it04. You've unboxed them, and I consider them to be sort of a reference "audiophile" tuning without that's not really harmanesque but based on.... Audiophile stereo types I guess? Similar but technically superior? Or different in many ways?

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