Dynamic drivers IEM searching, ie8, monster turbine pro, and what else? any suggestion?

[bmiamihk]

If you want sub bass and a sturdy ear phone with warm clear meds and highs simply get the Future Sonics.

 

[dweaver]

Having owned the SE215 for a few days now. The decriptions in the SE215 thread are pretty much spot on. Having owned the IE8, and MTPC Coppers, as well as currently owning the SM3 I find I like the SE215 as much if not more than them. I find it is a comfortable well built IEM that manages to get just the right amount of bass and midrange and almost the right amount of treble (wish it had just a touch more but don't miss it to much) along with a nice big soundstage (not quite as big as the IE8 but better than the MTPC and more conventional than the SM3). For it's price point and not having any major sound issues I think it would be a good starting point for someone who is not sure they wouldf like a dynamic based IEM.

 

[Anaxilus]

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Having owned the SE215 for a few days now. The decriptions in the SE215 thread are pretty much spot on. Having owned the IE8, and MTPC Coppers, as well as currently owning the SM3 I find I like the SE215 as much if not more than them. I find it is a comfortable well built IEM that manages to get just the right amount of bass and midrange and almost the right amount of treble (wish it had just a touch more but don't miss it to much) along with a nice big soundstage (not quite as big as the IE8 but better than the MTPC and more conventional than the SM3). For it's price point and not having any major sound issues I think it would be a good starting point for someone who is not sure they wouldf like a dynamic based IEM.

So SE215>IE8, MTPC, SM3?  Just checking.  
 

 

[dweaver]

OK let me carefully lay out my thoughts .
 
IE8 has the largest sound stage and the most bass (often to much especially in the mid-bass), I found the mids to recessed and influenced by the bass, and found the treble also not to my liking (to tinny sounding when it came to cymbals in particular).
MTPC has a much more intimate soundstage (smaller) the 2nd most amount of bass, midrange was warm and full on one pair I owned and slightly recessed and thin on the other pair, treble was nice and sparkly and reproduced cymbals well but would occasionally become to hot,
SM3 has an unusual soundstage in that it places you in the center and can have a massive stage all around you depending on the recording (good for some music but wierd for alot of music as well), good bass for a BA but does not compare to any of the dynamic based IEM I'm talkng about, has warm incredibly detailed midrange that is quite forward, treble seems recessed and often even veiled.
SE215 has almost as good a soundstage as the IE8, the least amount of bass of the dynamic IEM's listed but still has good sub-bass and only a hint of a midbass hump, mids that are close to the SM3 but not quite as forward, treble that is slightly recessed but clearer than the SM3 and the IE8 with good cymbal reproduction.
 
In terms of detail I would say SM3 > IE8 > MTPC = SE215
 
In terms of build quality I would say IE8 = SE215 > MTPC >> SM3
 
In terms of comfort I would say IE8 = SM3 = SE215 > MTPC
 
In terms of fit kit and accessories I would say SE215 = MTPC = IE8 >>> SM3 I have to say that while IE8 has the largest amount of stuff followed by the MTPC I found much of those items simply didn't mean anything to me especially in regards to the IE8 stuff. The SE215 on the other hand while having less stuff is a good selection that would meet most peoples needs. The SM3 on the other hand simply does not give enough in their kit.
 
So taking everything in as a whole I would say while the SE215 while not winning in many areas is near the top in most areas and offers a compelling argument as being as good as any of the others considering it does not have any major weaknesses. If you take into consideration it's price point it's a clear winner for me. 

 

[T.F.O.A]

OK people, i'm back!
 
Got shure se215 last week, used it for 3 days and the left driver is dead!
Wonder if it's my luck or just low quality.... grrr
 
Anyway the good news is after 3 days, i know i like dynamic drivers better.
 
Now on to the next question is, any recommendation for high end dynamic drivers?
Comfort counts as well, been thinking of the monster copper or fx 700, or future sonics?
 
Any suggestion anyone? I like how the se215 sounds, only wish that the treble could just...be...a...bit...(only a bit) louder or clearer.
I'll have the perfect iem for life for me.
 
Ok waiting for your recommendations.

 

[Anaxilus]

If you don't need big isolation the FX700 is the king in that group assuming you get the right tips on it.

 

[shotgunshane]

If you don't need big isolation the FX700 is the king in that group assuming you get the right tips on it.

x2 for the JVC's.

 

[T.F.O.A]

how bad is the isolation on jvc???
 
I do need isolation, but cause i don't want to hear subway sound and cars and bike sounds,(unless it's a big truck which is always noisy).
 
If jvc is crossed out, any other suggestion??
 

 

[Hi-fi Wigwammer]

 
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If you don't need big isolation the FX700 is the king in that group assuming you get the right tips on it.

x2 for the JVC's.

X3.
 
Since my FX700s arrived my Miles Davis Tributes have remained in their box. May sell them soon.
 
 

 

[shotgunshane]

how bad is the isolation on jvc???
 
I do need isolation, but cause i don't want to hear subway sound and cars and bike sounds,(unless it's a big truck which is always noisy).
 
If jvc is crossed out, any other suggestion??
 

It's not that bad to me. You get about 80% of normal closed isolation. With the music on I don't notice it.

 

[Anaxilus]

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X3.
 
Since my FX700s arrived my Miles Davis Tributes have remained in their box. May sell them soon.

Tbh, I like vocals on the MD's more.  I think the two are quite complimentary and take rather opposite philosophies.  U-shape w/ sharp detail and great acoustic timbre and open SS versus mid-centric bell shape w/ a euphonic smooth intimacy.  FX700 wins on sonic technicalities but MDs have better isolation and support unless you can get Dmitiri's lifeline.  
 

 

[bmiamihk]

Go for the Atrios universal or the Future Sonic customs. Great warm sound with all the bass you will ever need.
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how bad is the isolation on jvc???
 
I do need isolation, but cause i don't want to hear subway sound and cars and bike sounds,(unless it's a big truck which is always noisy).
 
If jvc is crossed out, any other suggestion??
 

 

 

[T.F.O.A]

Allright, might go for the future sonics atrio, how well is the build quality?
Biggest question of all will the cable last?? I know i had a bad luck with my shure se215, no sound on the left driver after 3days.
What amp/dac goes with dynamic driver?
 
@shotgunshane
Do you wear the fx700 over ear?

 

[shotgunshane]

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Allright, might go for the future sonics atrio, how well is the build quality?
Biggest question of all will the cable last?? I know i had a bad luck with my shure se215, no sound on the left driver after 3days.
What amp/dac goes with dynamic driver?
 
@shotgunshane
Do you wear the fx700 over ear?

 
Yes, I wear the JVC's over the ear.  I also found sony hybrids to be the best tips for them; and strangely enough, going a size down from what I normally wear.
 
I've owned the newest Atrios too.  The build quality is very good.  Cable doesn't tangle and strain relief is really good.  The IEM housing is a hard plastic.  It looks better in person than on the web. You're not going to break these.  The sub bass quality is excellent and probably the best you can get in an IEM.  The midrange is very good too but if you are wanting more treble quantity than the Shures, the Atrios are not going to have it.  The treble has good detail but is pretty laid back and takes a back seat to the rest of the spectrum, so I'm not sure this meets your criteria.  Never-the-less it's a really good IEM.
 
Edit: If you get the Atrios, you need to read this thread on tip selection: http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/536912/review-future-sonics-atrios-comparison-between-different-tips
 
 

 

[Kunlun]

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Allright, might go for the future sonics atrio, how well is the build quality?
Biggest question of all will the cable last?? I know i had a bad luck with my shure se215, no sound on the left driver after 3days.
What amp/dac goes with dynamic driver?
 
@shotgunshane
Do you wear the fx700 over ear?

Build quality is good, customer service is good, but you have to treat your earphones gently, no matter the brand, if you want them to last.
 
Avoid the ibasso t3 with the atrios, that's all I can say for amps.