[ustinj]

LOL best option for me now is to stay away from chifi threads ... this is undoubtedly one of the biggest hyped places on head-fi imo, especially with my impulsive buying. That's a few hundred down for the AK3+1!
 
I'll just wait for celeste and live happily ever after, if i ever recover from this one

 

[anticute]

How would you rate them against your LZ03A and Havi B3?

Not at home atm, and will be away the whole weekend, but I can do an A/B when I get home. z03a is pretty bad IMO, and Havi is very different sound sig, M2 is a lot bassier, Havi is more refined and with better soundstage etc. I'll give you a more detailed comparison when I can A/B them, though.

 

[Townyj]

Not at home atm, and will be away the whole weekend, but I can do an A/B when I get home. z03a is pretty bad IMO, and Havi is very different sound sig, M2 is a lot bassier, Havi is more refined and with better soundstage etc. I'll give you a more detailed comparison when I can A/B them, though.

Cheers i was hoping they might be on par with GR07s. Just a bit more airy and deeper low end.

 

[reluctant_engineer]

Bought the YHC S600 thanks to B9Scrambler's review. Just got these delivered, and I must say I'm quite impressed! Exceptional soundstage, deep bass, warm mids and smooth treble with just the right amount of sparkle. As for negatives, I detect minor distortion in bass while listening to really bass heavy tracks and fit is a bit finicky due to that huge housing. Other than that these are of excellent value.

 

[vapman]

Nobody else here owns the Seahf IEMs, huh?
Mine are supposed to be here Monday...
Anyone else bought them from HCK?

 

[B9Scrambler]

Bought the YHC S600 thanks to B9Scrambler's review. Just got these delivered, and I must say I'm quite impressed! Exceptional soundstage, deep bass, warm mids and smooth treble with just the right amount of sparkle. As for negatives, I detect minor distortion in bass while listening to really bass heavy tracks and fit is a bit finicky due to that huge housing. Other than that these are of excellent value.

 
Glad you're liking them! Their bass is a bit loose and while I don't run into distortion at the volumes I listen (i.e. really low), I could see that becoming an issue as you up the volume dial. Still, they're quite fun Did you stick with the stock tips or have you played around with different options?

 

[anticute]

Nevermind

 

[VinceHill24]

So how does it sound?

I haven't been "involved", but did follow a few heated discussions in the past about some other multi-BA and hybrid DIY iems where some people said it sounds good while others mentioned it was awful...  I got DT86 today and had them on burn in for 4hrs...  So far, the only good thing about them is... pretty cable.  I hate to say they sound really bad (something is seriously wrong with the mids tuning, like someone sucked the life out of them, very veiled, sound lo-fi, very narrow) because it could be another case of QC or something being stuck in the nozzle, etc.  So, I'm curious how do you find them?  I mean, they look beautiful, tiny shell completely filled with 5 drivers, metal narrow nozzle, nice mmcx socket, and beautiful braided cable (Penon sells it by itself for $35 which is a bargain for 8-braid cable).  But something is seriously wrong with a tuning of the mids in my review pair...  Really puzzled and confused...

From the way you describe how awful it sound, it just reminds me of a DIY 5BA i bought off Taobao recently. These DIY have serious QC issues and which is why i will never risk my hard-earned money anymore on those unheard DIY. Return is gonna be another one big complicated problems too as they just gonna ask you to keep burning in and see but of course we know what we hear, i hear no potential at all that how burning in gonna change the sound. Upon unable to get refund from seller, I ended up dissecting my pair to confirm are there really 5 BAs inside and they have indeed so it must've been a very bad crossover design or very serious QC issues when they solder those components together. Hope you can get yours sorted out and get a refund at least.

 

[vapman]

@anticute the Seahf earbuds are great but Seahf has one IEM on the market! A few mentions of it in tis thread since late 2015 but no reviews.
I will surely post my impressions soon as i get my hands on it Monday.
 
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Seahf-EG009-Custom-Made-Double-Dynamic-Around-Ear-Earphone-HIFI-Monitor-Headphones-Headset-With-MMCX/32530502110.html

 

[anticute]

  @anticute the Seahf earbuds are great but Seahf has one IEM on the market! A few mentions of it in tis thread since late 2015 but no reviews.
I will surely post my impressions soon as i get my hands on it Monday.
 
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Seahf-EG009-Custom-Made-Double-Dynamic-Around-Ear-Earphone-HIFI-Monitor-Headphones-Headset-With-MMCX/32530502110.html

Yeah, sorry about that, edited it since I realized I had misread and not noticed it said "IEM" and not "earbud". Apparently I wasn't fast enough

 

[vapman]

  Yeah, sorry about that, edited it since I realized I had misread and not noticed it said "IEM" and not "earbud". Apparently I wasn't fast enough

No worries bro, haha. I didn't notice your post until after I had

 
Either way I'll have some pictures and impressions of it in a couple days, surprised it has 87 orders but no review on HeadFi!

 

[twister6]

 

So how does it sound?

I haven't been "involved", but did follow a few heated discussions in the past about some other multi-BA and hybrid DIY iems where some people said it sounds good while others mentioned it was awful...  I got DT86 today and had them on burn in for 4hrs...  So far, the only good thing about them is... pretty cable.  I hate to say they sound really bad (something is seriously wrong with the mids tuning, like someone sucked the life out of them, very veiled, sound lo-fi, very narrow) because it could be another case of QC or something being stuck in the nozzle, etc.  So, I'm curious how do you find them?  I mean, they look beautiful, tiny shell completely filled with 5 drivers, metal narrow nozzle, nice mmcx socket, and beautiful braided cable (Penon sells it by itself for $35 which is a bargain for 8-braid cable).  But something is seriously wrong with a tuning of the mids in my review pair...  Really puzzled and confused...

From the way you describe how awful it sound, it just reminds me of a DIY 5BA i bought off Taobao recently. These DIY have serious QC issues and which is why i will never risk my hard-earned money anymore on those unheard DIY. Return is gonna be another one big complicated problems too as they just gonna ask you to keep burning in and see but of course we know what we hear, i hear no potential at all that how burning in gonna change the sound. Upon unable to get refund from seller, I ended up dissecting my pair to confirm are there really 5 BAs inside and they have indeed so it must've been a very bad crossover design or very serious QC issues when they solder those components together. Hope you can get yours sorted out and get a refund at least.

 
I didn't buy these.  As a reviewer, typically companies or vendors send me their products for testing and evaluation.  My last 4-5 reviews covered flagship brand name iems/ciems in price range of $1k-$2k, so I thought it could be fun to try something for $180.  I do agree, this could be an artifact of a bad QC.  My intent of posting this impression was not to bring down the product or others who bought or reviewing DT86, but rather to compare notes, to see if there is some discrepancy.  As I mentioned above, I have seen some heated discussions about DIY iems where people hear complete opposite signature/tonality, and I'm afraid this could one of these cases
 
Regarding dealing with shady aliexpress or taobao sellers, that is a reason why I ONLY recommend dealing with Penon Audio.  They are actually the one who sent me DT86 for testing.  I've been dealing with these guys for the last 3 years, and it's always a pleasure.

 

[audio123]

I didn't buy these.  As a reviewer, typically companies or vendors send me their products for testing and evaluation.  My last 4-5 reviews covered flagship brand name iems/ciems in price range of $1k-$2k, so I thought it could be fun to try something for $180.  I do agree, this could be an artifact of a bad QC.  My intent of posting this impression was not to bring down the product or others who bought or reviewing DT86, but rather to compare notes, to see if there is some discrepancy.  As I mentioned above, I have seen some heated discussions about DIY iems where people hear complete opposite signature/tonality, and I'm afraid this could one of these cases

Regarding dealing with shady aliexpress or taobao sellers, that is a reason why I ONLY recommend dealing with Penon Audio.  They are actually the one who sent me DT86 for testing.  I've been dealing with these guys for the last 3 years, and it's always a pleasure.

i believe too alex. I will burn in them more and pair with other sources before doing a review

 

[Brooko]

Someone should get the DT86 to someone who has a reasonable measuring kit.  Measurements won't tell you everything - but the'll soon tell you if the freq response is bad, and if someone's hyping them undeservedly.
 

  I'd like to see moderators doing something about "hypers", I don't like what I've been reading lately, many headfiers seem to overreact when getting a new toy and are posting overly positive feedback without taking their time, just to be the first to post about the brand new iem.

 
Unfortunately there isn't a lot we can do.  Everyone is entitled to an opinion.  What I'd like to see is more measurements to balance out the hype.  You can't run away from a frequency response graph if someone is hyping the heck out of something. And I'd also like more people to call to task anyone caught hyping gear.  The problem at the moment is that there has been an explosion of manufacturers pushing earphones. They're finding more and more people who will write a positive review - basically to get a start. What these new writers don't know is that by doing it they'll also build a reputation (and not a good one) - and that sticks.  Better to be honest - and write a realistic review piece. To me, integrity (and my own rep) is worth way more than a free sample (regardless of price).

 

[audio123]

  Someone should get the DT86 to someone who has a reasonable measuring kit.  Measurements won't tell you everything - but the'll soon tell you if the freq response is bad, and if someone's hyping them undeservedly.
 
 
Unfortunately there isn't a lot we can do.  Everyone is entitled to an opinion.  What I'd like to see is more measurements to balance out the hype.  You can't run away from a frequency response graph if someone is hyping the heck out of something. And I'd also like more people to call to task anyone caught hyping gear.  The problem at the moment is that there has been an explosion of manufacturers pushing earphones. They're finding more and more people who will write a positive review - basically to get a start. What these new writers don't know is that by doing it they'll also build a reputation (and not a good one) - and that sticks.  Better to be honest - and write a realistic review piece. To me, integrity (and my own rep) is worth way more than a free sample (regardless of price).

agreed. i bought the lz a2s because of good reviews only to be disappointed!
i will use the dt86 for a few weeks b4 making a final conclusion.
so far i will say it is sensitive with different dap pairings.