Chinese / Asian Brand Info Thread (Headphones, IEMs, Amps, DACs)
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Aug 10, 2016 at 3:49 AM Post #32,506 of 35,472
Hi Guys,
 
can anyone suggest China IEMs wich i can rip appart and build my own custom molded iems?
 
I can't find the earmax er600 on aliexpress... i was reading alot in this thread but every new comment just confuses me even more.
 
Thx in advance for your help!
 
Aug 10, 2016 at 3:52 AM Post #32,507 of 35,472
Regarding the **** 4in1, though the dynamic driver on the rendered pictures looks like every other clone of the ie80 dd that can be found on taobao...
Knowing they have a 32ohm impedance at 1khz and assuming they don't use any other resistance in their design. By calculating the impedance with knowles BA wbfk-30042 (124ohm at 1khz) in parallel we should get a dynamic driver that have ~43ohm
 
a little research and assuming these have a beryllium diaphragm this should be the dynamic driver used inside:
 
https://world.taobao.com/item/528313618205.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.jgTDg0#detail
 
Aug 10, 2016 at 6:45 AM Post #32,508 of 35,472
  Regarding the **** 4in1, though the dynamic driver on the rendered pictures looks like every other clone of the ie80 dd that can be found on taobao...
Knowing they have a 32ohm impedance at 1khz and assuming they don't use any other resistance in their design. By calculating the impedance with knowles BA wbfk-30042 (124ohm at 1khz) in parallel we should get a dynamic driver that have ~43ohm
 
a little research and assuming these have a beryllium diaphragm this should be the dynamic driver used inside:
 
https://world.taobao.com/item/528313618205.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.jgTDg0#detail


Nice detective work!
 
 
Aug 10, 2016 at 7:36 AM Post #32,511 of 35,472
Can anyone compare the vivo xe800 and sender 4in1? How comfortable are they? Also, are there fake vivos because the price varies a lot on aliexpress.

4in1 is very comfortable. They can be worn cable up or down easily too without needing to reverse sides.
 
Aug 10, 2016 at 8:16 AM Post #32,512 of 35,472
  4in1 is very comfortable. They can be worn cable up or down easily too without needing to reverse sides.

 
Can anyone compare the vivo xe800 and sender 4in1? How comfortable are they? Also, are there fake vivos because the price varies a lot on aliexpress.


the <$10 vivos are fake and don't have the moveable metal driver. the >$23 ones from rilpac or original earphones are authentic. the vivo are extremely comfortable and easy to fit--very light
 
Aug 10, 2016 at 8:29 AM Post #32,513 of 35,472
Can anyone compare the vivo xe800 and sender 4in1? How comfortable are they? Also, are there fake vivos because the price varies a lot on aliexpress.

 
I got mine here:
 
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Vivo-XE800-in-ear-HiFi-earphone-with-mic-for-smartphones/32649424538.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.81.PBFK8KI
 
They are comfortable. Haven't tried the 4in1. Going to wait for Crabdogs review, since I trust his ears 
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Aug 10, 2016 at 9:50 AM Post #32,515 of 35,472
ordered Vivo XE800 here ($18):
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-Original-VIVO-XE800-High-definition-moveable-Hifi-Sound-system-in-ear-earphone-with-mic-Voice/32704376144.html
 
they look exactly the same than those showed in Rillpac and other sellers in AE (Original earphones..), but the price is significantly lower; hope i won't get a white lemmon.. anyway, it's a tiny risk, because all the issues i got in AE were fixed by the sellers gently and quickly.
 
for example, my defective Tennmak Piano (no bass, after trying everything, tapping the vent holes, using foam tips, and using a better cable): Tony, from Tennmak, is going to send me new drivers quickly and without any problem (consider i reported the issue to him 4-5 months after my order!). will post my impressions when they arrive (forget my old impressions about them, because they were defective units). hope i'll join Piano's enthusiasts now.
 
another example: HCK sent me regular two **** UE (1DD) instead of **** UEs (1DD+1BA) and HCK UES (2DD), by error (quite unusual, because i received many packages from them, always perfect and fast). i didn't notice the issue because the regular Senfers i received, were sounding quite better than my old regular **** UE. but the difference relied on the cables! (the blue one that i chose with my first regular senfers was not good: avoid it, it's bassy and blurry sound); in fact, i was shocked because couldn't find significant differences between "2DD" and "1DD+1BA" (their cables were good and similar).
Jim has sent me the right drivers now, very quickly without any problem (consider i reported the issue to him 4-5 months after my initial order!).
 
so i'm very happy with the customer support from these sellers. haven't got any serious problem in 84 AE orders (more than 200 items); all i found are reasonable people. maybe i was lucky, but guess that finding rotten apples is very rare.
 
btw, the regular **** UE (1DD), with a decent cable, sound very well for the budget (they are bassy, but good resolution overall and no exaggerated peaks). so i have high expectative on **** UEs (1DD+1BA), which must be very similar (sound wise) to **** 4in1; and the shells are very comfortable in my ears, regardless of their size (bigger but lighter than 4in1's, i guess).
 
Aug 10, 2016 at 10:16 AM Post #32,518 of 35,472
  You should be aware that there are many fakes of XE800 so you should buy only from reputed buyer.


yup, but Rillpac or Original Earphones (i don't remember which one), for instance, show the bags containing hundreds of vivo xe800. no original box, kind of OEM iem. they claim that you can detect fake vivos because fake nozzles doesn't rotate. Shenzhen XiaoYu Trade's ones seem to rotate.
i've compared the real photos carefully; Rillpac and Original earphones share similar "real" photos; Shenzhen XiaoYu Trade "real" photos are different, but the look of the iem and bag is identical, and quite different to cheaper (<$10) ones.
that's why i took the risk (saving $5 or loosing $18, LOL).
i suspect all these new "original" vivos are a sort of OEM version. would like to read comparisons with older and much more expensive original XE800.
 
Aug 10, 2016 at 10:31 AM Post #32,519 of 35,472
   
I got mine here:
 
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Vivo-XE800-in-ear-HiFi-earphone-with-mic-for-smartphones/32649424538.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.81.PBFK8KI
 
They are comfortable. Haven't tried the 4in1. Going to wait for Crabdogs review, since I trust his ears 
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I'm seriously going to have to unsubscribe from this thread as I've pulled the trigger on these now too (already ordered the tennmak pro and **** 4 in 1s this month)
 
I'm about to move house and it's going to be tough to keep my IEM obsession hidden from the boss when we pack.
 
Aug 10, 2016 at 10:46 AM Post #32,520 of 35,472
http://penonaudio.com/Earphones/In-ear-earphone/Rose-Aurora-dynamic-driver-earphone?sort=p.price&order=ASC
 
anyone tried the rose aurora b4?
 
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