[Charliemotta]

Soundstage winner is Havi by a close margin.

Sub bass winner is tenore.

Just my opinion.

No amp, tenore sq wins easy

With amp, havi sq edges tenore and crushes many more, including more expensive models.

Both are winners.

I concur with you on all. Honestly I'm not the least bit curious about the Ostrys.  Not with these 2. Makes you wonder what will be the next hype? KZ's possibly?

 

[robakri]

  It says "Account suspended" - but penon audio is still available on ebay as bigbargainsonline. 
 
Given the sterling service they have been giving in the past, I believe this is a hiccup that will get rectified soon. 
About 1-2 weeks ago, my friend received a shipment from them - everything top notch. 
 
Try contacting them on ebay - you should get reply shortly.

Ebay noob here
 
Can't find the page, care to link it?

 

[Charliemotta]

 
Even the soundstage width? I don't have Havi to compare, but I never experienced anything as wide as Tenores.  I mean, RE400B (balanced wired) sound is very wide paired up with HM700, but not as much air as Tenores.  It's like Zero Audio guys have a built-in reverb in there lol!!!
 
Btw, Doppios are coming along nicely with more burn in.  They can't match the width and the airiness of Tenores, but do have more bass quantity and a more solid build.  The only concern is their very high sensitivity.  Sure it makes it easy to drive and they are VERY efficient, but it introduces a bit of hissing noise, hearable when you pause the music.  Noticeable more with AP100 source since it has a huge driving voltage.

I will not argue that. My very first impression of the Tenores was how amazingly wide the soundstage was, and it still is. Never heard that kind of separation before.

 

[Hisoundfi]

  I concur with you on all. Honestly I'm not the least bit curious about the Ostrys.  Not with these 2. Makes you wonder what will be the next hype? KZ's possibly?

Ya, after getting a good seal on these kz ed3, I'm really impressed. Too bad the stock tips they ship with it are crap. They honestly sound like a poor man's gr07 BE. Not as good all around but the same type of tuning and signature. They are awesome and definitely do punch well above the 25 measly bucks I paid for a pair. Ya, the hype on these will be big. I still like the tenore better though.
 
Here I was thinking they didn't have any sub bass, turns out I didn't have a seal. Sorry guys...
 
By the way, with all the hype with the vsd3, I just saw the gr07BE on ebay for 130 usd shipped brand new from LMUE! That's a steal! I had to order one.

 

[rebelinho]

  It says "Account suspended" - but penon audio is still available on ebay as bigbargainsonline. 
 
Given the sterling service they have been giving in the past, I believe this is a hiccup that will get rectified soon. 
About 1-2 weeks ago, my friend received a shipment from them - everything top notch. 
 
Try contacting them on ebay - you should get reply shortly.

thanks man. they sure had/have very good service and prices

 

[Charliemotta]

 
Ya, after getting a good seal on these kz ed3, I'm really impressed. Too bad the stock tips they ship with it are crap. They honestly sound like a poor man's gr07 BE. Not as good all around but the same type of tuning and signature. They are awesome and definitely do punch well above the 25 measly bucks I paid for a pair. Ya, the hype on these will be big. I still like the tenore better though.
 
Here I was thinking they didn't have any sub bass, turns out I didn't have a seal. Sorry guys...
 
By the way, with all the hype with the vsd3, I just saw the gr07BE on ebay for 130 usd shipped brand new from LMUE! That's a steal! I had to order one.

Yeah I forgot about the vsd3/5. That is a good price. From what I recall unless I'm wrong LMUE isn't real competitively priced in general.

 

[analogsurviver]

  Ebay noob here
 
Can't find the page, care to link it?

http://www.ebay.de/sch/bigbargainonline/m.html?item=380837555791&hash=item58abafee4f&pt=US_Headphones&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
 
just put any item # in search on "your" ebay - I linked German one because it is in my time zone and thus time errors in auctions are prevented.

 

[gyx11]

LMUE is probably the best place to get your Vsonic stuff from. Their other things are priced very competitively as well. I've generally had very good experience buying from them before (Rockit R50, GR01, VSD1S) and so I will vouch for them.

 

[mochill]

The ed3 tips sealed my ears so ymmv

 

[Hisoundfi]

The ed3 tips sealed my ears so ymmv

Ya, the stock tips on the ed3 are pretty, just don't fit me.
 
For some reason I always get a good fit with the medium sony hybrids with the green innards. Just picked up some more on ebay. Lesson learned.

 

[cel4145]

It says "Account suspended" - but penon audio is still available on ebay as bigbargainsonline. 

Given the sterling service they have been giving in the past, I believe this is a hiccup that will get rectified soon. 

Definitely. That's usually an indication that their website is causing some kind of problem consuming too many resources with the commercial web hosting service, not a sign that the company is folding up. The web host will suspend the account until the problem is fixed.

 

[gimster]

I ordered the KZ ED3 from shutian wang on 23 May and the tg-38s (2 pieces) from passerby wei on 12 May, both on Aliexpress. Just picked up the ED3 from the post office, while the tg-38s still haven't arrived (oddly they have a tracking number from the Netherlands). The dispute for the tg-38s is "in progress". (In case you're wondering, I'm in Australia.)
 
And then it gets stranger. Opened the package containing the ED3 and found a one-Chinese Yuan bill tucked into the cardboard sleeve. Opened the box and found that there was only one stock ear tip (the translucent one with a red core) in place. Looked on the floor to check that the other hadn't fallen off when I took the earphones out of the ziplock bag, but didn't find anything. There were three other pairs of ear tips in the box, but they were all plain black ones. Could the 1 Chinese Yuan (16 US cents) be compensation for the irregular package?
 
 So I've tried the earphones the medium-sized black tips on. My regular earphones these days are the Vsonic GR07 Classic, and the ED3 isn't that much of a downgrade, right out of the box. The initial impression is that the ED3 has a weightier bottom end and a little less top end sparkle. The fit is fairly comfortable, though I wish it had a sliding cinch.

 

[BenF]

  I ordered the KZ ED3 from shutian wang on 23 May and the tg-38s (2 pieces) from passerby wei on 12 May, both on Aliexpress. Just picked up the ED3 from the post office, while the tg-38s still haven't arrived (oddly they have a tracking number from the Netherlands). The dispute for the tg-38s is "in progress". (In case you're wondering, I'm in Australia.)
...

Passerby Wei has a 83.3% feedback. Why didn't you buy it from Alice Zeng, like everybody else?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Croons-tingo-tg-38s-earbud-earphones-pk-mx985-a8-hifi-balanced/1428384889.html
 
Anyway, it's only been 3 weeks, free shipping through China Post can take 4-6 weeks.

 

[jjacq]

Any good cheap AMPs for low impedance cans? I see plenty of <$60 amps out there but I don't know if there are reviews for them. Curious if I could get a portable amp that can drive orthos haha. 

 

[gimster]

  Passerby Wei has a 83.3% feedback. Why didn't you buy it from Alice Zeng, like everybody else?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Croons-tingo-tg-38s-earbud-earphones-pk-mx985-a8-hifi-balanced/1428384889.html
 
Anyway, it's only been 3 weeks, free shipping through China Post can take 4-6 weeks.

Passerby Wei had the $1 15-day shipping option, which I chose (so the dispute I opened with Aliexpress is justified).
 
The ED3 took just under two weeks to arrive though.