pdrm360
Headphoneus Supremus
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HD800 vs. LCD-2F
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Hello guys. Is LCD-3 harder to drive than LCD-2??
Does it need more power?
Also, can you use LCD-2 outside without an external amp?
As I posted earlier above, I recently demoed the LCD-2 against some other phones and was very surprised to find the latest Fazor versions could be driven from an IPhone 5s. Clearly not as good as on a good amp but surprisingly decent. IMO you still feel like you are listening to a high end can and it still sounds like an Audeze. But clearly worse in many respects than on a good set up. But I would listen to one in my bedroom off an IPad (my main setup is in the living room) and be happy if I owned one (I don't). LCD-X can be driven off a portable but not optimally.
Agree that LCD-3 is lifeless without an amp.
Wouldn't take any of these "outside" if you meant that literally.
so, Audeze's portability rank goes:
#1 LCD-X
#2 LCD-2F
#3 LCD-XC
#4 LCD-3F
Has anyone tested LCD-X with a DAP?
I'm going to get an LCD-X soon. One of my friends told me LCD-X is too heavy and can hurt your neck.
And if you take your audeze cans outside you will share your music with every bodies around![]()
except the XC I guess being closed
You might actually share them with someone permanently if you flash those cans about outside !
Have you guys tried to use Audeze headphoness outside?
What do you feel about them? they're obviously a lot heavier than usual headphones.
Will I be okay if I wear LCD-3 or X or a long period time outside?
Hmmmmm. :rolleyes:
My LCD 2.2 (non fazor) are rated at 60 oHm with an efficiency of 91db/1mW.
The LCD 2F are rated at a higher impedance of 70 oHm but have a better efficiency of 93db/1mW.
I think the difference being heard on the 5S is the more cohesive sound waves aligned by the Fazors, but still no where near its potential. So while I agree that the Fazor would sound better on the 5S, I don't think it's from efficiency.
I wonder if the lower speed of the LCD-2 planer driver would hide/mask the difference between LCD-3 and LCD-2 driven from an iPhone 5S. As in, the iPhone 5S simply can't keep up to / drive the superior driver of the LCD-3 to its full (awesome) potential so therefore the LCD-3 sounds that much more hobbled (this, and the higher impedance of 110 oHm).
My LCD-XC's are much, much easier to drive (close to the LCD-X spec) and although the dynamics suffer greatly from the iPhone 5S's weak amp, they do sound comparatively better than the LCD-2 from the 5S.
All that said, I love the LCD-2.2 when driven properly.
Cheers![]()