Is the video up?it's the same DAP, just from different angles. it's black, but front/back panels and sides reflect light in a different way, causing a bit of confusion
I'm uploading a big detailed video right now, but in short, for $115 this DAP is a clear winner in it's price range. Good neutral sound without any artificial accents, but being lively enough to be enjoyable I think it's closest rivals starts from $200
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AP80 - Hidizs next portable Hi-Res music player
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Did you compare to HiBy R3 and/or Shanling M0 ?I'm uploading a big detailed video right now, but in short, for $115 this DAP is a clear winner in it's price range. Good neutral sound without any artificial accents, but being lively enough to be enjoyable I think it's closest rivals starts from $200
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Thanks for answering this question honestly. I had asked the same question earlier, as i hoped to use a 400gb card in the ap80. I have 25k songs on one card (256gb) already. Will a card with more than 15k still work, or exactly how does the "limit" respond in use?As for now, the AP80 can read up to 15k songs but it will increase up to 20k. We will let you know when
Maybe i should go with several smaller cards then to rotate?
I have 10k or so CDs ripped to flac, so 20k songs is nothing.
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Thanks for answering this question honestly. I had asked the same question earlier, as i hoped to use a 400gb card in the ap80. I have 25k songs on one card (256gb) already. Will a card with more than 15k still work, or exactly how does the "limit" respond in use?
Maybe i should go with several smaller cards then to rotate?
I have 10k or so CDs ripped to flac, so 20k songs is nothing.
I'm sure there's some programming-based reason for the limited file capacity, but the ability to use ever-larger SD cards would seem to imply that the file cap should be re-engineered to match. On my AP60II, I've got a mixture of MP3 and FLAC music and MP3 podcasts, and I fill about half of a 64 GB card with over 6000 files. That same ratio on a 400 GB card could lead to well over 50,000 tracks. And many of the newer devices claim to be capable of handling the future 1 TB cards that Sandisk and others have been promising. When we have massive cards, but can only use 15-20 percent of their capacity due to file caps, why bother supporting the larger cards?
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this is my first time hearing of this company...i made a pledge but how reliable is Hidisz from the previous two campaigns including promised delivery time? How are they as a company on the retail-side (non campaign / in-store selling) and how is their after service? Has anyone had any bad experiences with this company and can the details be described on why it was bad / how it was handled?
I also am thinking about the headphone's on the campaign but how are they over all? For in-ear, I personally use XBA-Z5 with the NW-ZX2 for most part
I also am thinking about the headphone's on the campaign but how are they over all? For in-ear, I personally use XBA-Z5 with the NW-ZX2 for most part
@cleg Gorgeous pictures! Nice work!Just few photos…
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yesIs the video up?
yesDid you compare to HiBy R3 and/or Shanling M0 ?
this is my first time hearing of this company...i made a pledge but how reliable is Hidisz from the previous two campaigns including promised delivery time? How are they as a company on the retail-side (non campaign / in-store selling) and how is their after service? Has anyone had any bad experiences with this company and can the details be described on why it was bad / how it was handled?
I also am thinking about the headphone's on the campaign but how are they over all? For in-ear, I personally use XBA-Z5 with the NW-ZX2 for most part
Me, personally, have a good experience to describe. I've always got my orders on time and all products that I own currently are working, even AP100 which was released >4 years ago. There are some minor bugs existing in FW of recent DAPs based on HibyOS and this, as I undertsand, should be addressed to Hiby by Hidizs. Still, those DAPs work good, have excellent SQ and are reliable in terms of physical use. Moreover, I've managed to setup a good communication process between myself and Hidizs officials and always got answers to my questions. IMO
P.S. All my questions to FiiO and Shanling were left unanswered for a long time....
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I'm sure there's some programming-based reason for the limited file capacity, but the ability to use ever-larger SD cards would seem to imply that the file cap should be re-engineered to match. On my AP60II, I've got a mixture of MP3 and FLAC music and MP3 podcasts, and I fill about half of a 64 GB card with over 6000 files. That same ratio on a 400 GB card could lead to well over 50,000 tracks. And many of the newer devices claim to be capable of handling the future 1 TB cards that Sandisk and others have been promising. When we have massive cards, but can only use 15-20 percent of their capacity due to file caps, why bother supporting the larger cards?
Exactly - sI'm sure there's some programming-based reason for the limited file capacity, but the ability to use ever-larger SD cards would seem to imply that the file cap should be re-engineered to match. On my AP60II, I've got a mixture of MP3 and FLAC music and MP3 podcasts, and I fill about half of a 64 GB card with over 6000 files. That same ratio on a 400 GB card could lead to well over 50,000 tracks. And many of the newer devices claim to be capable of handling the future 1 TB cards that Sandisk and others have been promising. When we have massive cards, but can only use 15-20 percent of their capacity due to file caps, why bother supporting the larger cards?
Exactly - so the file cap negates the use of larger cards.I'm sure there's some programming-based reason for the limited file capacity, but the ability to use ever-larger SD cards would seem to imply that the file cap should be re-engineered to match. On my AP60II, I've got a mixture of MP3 and FLAC music and MP3 podcasts, and I fill about half of a 64 GB card with over 6000 files. That same ratio on a 400 GB card could lead to well over 50,000 tracks. And many of the newer devices claim to be capable of handling the future 1 TB cards that Sandisk and others have been promising. When we have massive cards, but can only use 15-20 percent of their capacity due to file caps, why bother supporting the larger cards?
Of course, i understand that extremely HiRes files are much bigger, but the majority of users are going to have a mixture of files/sizes.
Im wondering if there is any way of getting around the file cap to make is usable? Such as multiple folders, and only accessing one folder at a time (almost as in partioning). Does the player have a way to direct the folder access, or just automatically find all files that the player can use that are on the card?
Im guessing that the processor power/speed is the major limiting factor in the file cap, as too many files woyld just bog it down. Which is why the ability to only access a folder at a time would be highly useful /advisable.
But its a shame that a large card is basically not useable otherwise...
Screen brightness at 100%
AP80 looks a bit yellow.
@kenloveme is there any chance the color temp could be adjusted prior release?
@FSTOP I think it shouldn't be a problem if you arrange all your songs in different folders so it doesn't exceed 15k songs in a single folderThanks for answering this question honestly. I had asked the same question earlier, as i hoped to use a 400gb card in the ap80. I have 25k songs on one card (256gb) already. Will a card with more than 15k still work, or exactly how does the "limit" respond in use?
Maybe i should go with several smaller cards then to rotate?
I have 10k or so CDs ripped to flac, so 20k songs is nothing.
@Vimtoman Tbh, I think the picture quality is a bit weird. I don't know the circumstances or settings for taking the picture but on my end, the quality is better, (please no judgements on my music tastes. it is just a test haha) :AP80 looks a bit yellow.
@kenloveme is there any chance the color temp could be adjusted prior release?
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Btw, we have some new nice pictures from the Red colored AP80 along with the bros! :
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@FSTOP I think it shouldn't be a problem if you arrange all your songs in different folders so it doesn't exceed 15k songs in a single folder
Does the database/category mode have a file limit? I know that file limits in folder mode is pretty much a non-issue, since that's just an OS thing and it's a bit silly to ponder a single directory with 20,000 songs in it.
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