Alessandro MS1000 and MS Ultimate - DIY & modding [56K warning]

[apatN]

Wow, apocalyptic distancer making. :-D

FWIW your 2mm holes look quite a lot bigger than my 2mm holes.

 

[nickchen]

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Not everyone has such strict attention to detail, Nick.  Just where it counts.
 

It's just because these values influence the sound sig quite brutally, so I think it counts in this case...
 
 
 

 

[butt]

Totally agree with you nickchen..
After all, you and apatn are like the "master" of this mod, so I think all the dimensions for the distancer on the first page is for a reason, and it's best if we could just follow the "master" themselves..  
 
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It's just because these values influence the sound sig quite brutally, so I think it counts in this case...

 
 

 

[apatN]

Not me. All credit goes to Nickchen (and his Mannschaft).

 

[rehabitat]

I am quite blown away by the unwelcoming feeling in this thread. I thought the method I used with the pipe was a good idea and worth sharing. I am faced with no positive comments, just cold corrections and weird 'jokes'

I'm signing off and will leave you people to your dwindling empire.

 

[Andrewjiangyi]

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I am quite blown away by the unwelcoming feeling in this thread. I thought the method I used with the pipe was a good idea and worth sharing. I am faced with no positive comments, just cold corrections and weird 'jokes'

I'm signing off and will leave you people to your dwindling empire.

Your idea was great, and I would be interested in using it! But I think what Nickchen is trying to say is that after his trials, it seemed best to have the specs on the first page, and things other than that might not give you the best quality that you can get out of it!
 
After reading all 142 pages of this thread, I think that they (Nickchen, ApatN, and a lot of others) are great people, and they're not bashing on your idea, they just want you to experience the best!

 

[Ikarios]

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I am quite blown away by the unwelcoming feeling in this thread. I thought the method I used with the pipe was a good idea and worth sharing. I am faced with no positive comments, just cold corrections and weird 'jokes'

I'm signing off and will leave you people to your dwindling empire.

You posted your method less than 14 hours ago, and you've received two comments - both of them obviously in a joking manner, and one of them correcting the specs of the distancer. These guys have been helping people with their mods for almost three years and 142 posts, I'm sure they've done a lot more experimenting on this than you have. This is the internet - if you can't handle the jokes and criticism, then you should probably stay out of it for your own good, honestly.
 
Just my two cents. I thought it was a good idea but more of a kludge if you don't have the time, resources or money to get real wooden distancers made to the specs of the original creators of the mod. If you think it sounds good then all the more power to you.
 

 

[rehabitat]

Fyi I posted a description of the method on three occasions over the last few weeks.  It was ignored until I posted the photo yesterday with a more detailed description.
 
Other than appearance, I fail to see the point in going to the trouble of obtaining "real" wooden distancers for a plastic phone.  I was under the impression that this was, in part, a diy thread, which by definition not an exact science, so to be relentlessly corrected without any kind of acknowlegement or pleasantry is rather off-putting.
 
Moreover, I have not read any discussion on variation in the i.d. of the distancer having any impact on the sound, so to suddenly claim anecdotally it makes a large difference is surprising to say the least.  All due respect to the OP, but to make a claim without backing it up is taking the piss.  If I missed something in the thread, please point me at it.
 
I guess I'm coming to this very late and everyone is bored with the thread.  So my 2 cents seems to be little more than an annoyance.  I'll stay out of the way now and let the real people handle things.
 
I'm still grateful for all the info I found here.  It helped to save me from buying a GS1000 which I could not realistically afford.  Maybe one day when I'm more financial, I'll play with the MSPro's and get some real distancers.  Until then, I'll be happy with what I've got.
 
Cheers

 

[nickchen]

Well, this is the internet, it's not only jokes and criticism, it's also a place where more sensitive fellow people appear from time to time. Sorry when I made you feel discontent, that wasn't my intention.
 
Aflac is right, I just intended to prevent you from getting some weird sounding construct. Before all this here started, I had built something similar out of 45mm card board, and it sounded...well, very bad...in comparison to a proper 40/14mm tube. Material doesn't count, just size specs. It happened to end up with wood because wood is light and solid, but acoustically, I don't see any reason not to use card board.

 

[rehabitat]

No worries Nick.  Thanks for the response.  As usual with this stuff, information is mostly anecdotal and "imo".  You may be the Koenig of this thread, but it's good to leave room for other ideas.
 
Maybe I'll try some 40mm i.d. distancers one day, but I doubt it will make much difference.  Imo and in this case the distance of the driver from the ear is more important than the volume of the distancer.  Perhaps I'm wrong, but in the interest of encouraging diy "know how and make do", a slight variation in spec should be generally acceptable, unless proven otherwise.  If volume is indeed the important factor, then a reduction in depth would obviously be required if the i.d. was larger than 40mm.  Perhaps this should be studied further, but it's a bit late in the game.
 
All the best
 
p.s. My wife is half-German, so I get revved-up by certain cultural traits...

 

[nickchen]

Lucky you, my wife, me and my vincinity are 100% german, imagine what we have to bear. Fortunally, most of the old Nazis have died meanwhile, the 3 following generations 1968, Golf and Love Parade differ quite remarkably... 

 

[apatN]

Wow such drama in this thread. ;p I never wanted to make you feel uncomfortable, sorry if I did. I guess the tongue-in-cheek isn't picked up that easily by some over the internet.
 
It's a good thing those Nazis are dead. Next up: baby-boomers.

 

[Flipjack]

hmm, how would a Symphones Magnum (http://www.symphones.ca/) react to an MS1000 mod?
 
It's based on an Alessandro MS2/Grado 325, but FWIR, it's not your typical Grado, it's much more neutral. Just as I'd like to think of the MS Pro. I read that the Magnums are very refined and have great mids. And since MS Pro and the Magnum cost about the same, I'm very curious how the Magnums would sound with distancers and GS1000 pads.

 

[apatN]

I heard one based on the SR325i once but had no direct way of comparing it to the stock one. It is very hard however to get a Magnum. Symphones had (has?) some real problems delivering these. You should really read the threads about the Magnums.

 

[Flipjack]

How did you like them?