music_4321
Headphoneus Supremus
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Congrats inmotion! I'm so glad others are finally getting the quads and can describe on their own what I've been saying all alone, yet not be accused of having some diabolical special interests...lol. Enjoy.
Not to discredit all those new 'happy' 1964 owners, but most of them seem to be people with very little experience with either (several) top-tier IEMs or quality full-sized headphones, and I should imagine that for most of them any set of dual/ triple-driver customs would impress them quite a bit. I'd like to see the opinions of more experienced head-fiers who also have a good reputation, but I doubt we will be seeing many.
The fact that you or anybody else might have got a free set of 1964 customs or a very 'generous' discount and not disclosing such information, does not translate as the product itself being necessarily bad. It only means that your/ their reviews/ comments/ impressions may likely be biased and that the company most likely tried to provide a very good set, also ensuring there were no cosmetic (QC) flaws. And no, that would not be "diabolical", it would just be dishonest. There are people who got free sets of JH13/ UE/ Westone or heavily discounted sets, but we can safely say, for example, the JH13 remains one of the best, if not the best, of all the customs out there as evidenced by all the feedback of so many owners, both (very) experienced and inexperienced.
BTW, one member with a bit of experience already, Rawrster, was not exactly raving about his 1964-Ts. Again, that doesn't mean the 1964-Ts are bad/ mediocre.
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Jermng has the ES5 and the quad, and while in our last conversation he said he prefers the ES5, he also stated that the Westone doesn't necessarily blow the quad out of the water. He said in some areas they are close (with the edge going to the ES5), and in others they are equal. He might even had like the quads better in certain aspects but I would have to review our conversation. So we're talking two products that close, but one $400 to $500 more in cost. Now, they have a right to get their prices up some to compete in production costs, although I admit that doesn't favor us, the consumers who are a bit spoiled now by the great introductory deals they offered. On the other hand, if costs are going to increase, they will need to get a better handle on quality control of the shells (I didn't see any flaws in mine, but I do see a few others have described flaws). As far as sound, they are superb based on anything I have heard at this point. And that's by leaps and bounds.
That is misleading information. Some features of the 1964 as well as the sets themselves have gone up in price or will be going up soon. The price difference you quoted was only for the introductory 1964 prices and without the new extra charges. Also, with Westone customs - at least in the USA - you can often get free ear-impressions and shipping, and even in some cases get a discount depending on which audiologist you visit. Taking that into account, it's more accurate to say that the price difference would be between $300 - $400 depending on where you live and who you purchase your customs from (in some cases in can be even less than $300).
Also, Jermng is only one head-fier who owns both, hardly scientific proof that the ES5s & 1964-Qs are as close as you seem to insist. Also, it's a well known fact that at a certain point as one gets higher in the SQ chain, the differences in SQ get smaller - the so-called law of diminishing returns - where one pays a lot of money for minimal increments in SQ. However, for some people, those small increments are worth the extra $400/ $500/ $700, and so on. Others, however, state that those differences are not always that small.