Quote: Originally Posted by i_don't_know And I am ampless, but I will tell you that I don't believe these need an amp at all. Also, bass is a little... err... powerful. And no, they look good! They don't need an amp to play loud. But the SQ benefit from an amp very much...

They look like UE Metro.Fi 2 - terrible sound for me, mids almost non-existent. Maybe I had broken pair, or something ... but they sounded really bad.

Try them with different sources from neutral/bright (iPod) to bassy (Sony, Cowon)... or whatever you have or can borrow. An amp is also welcome. But don't judge, after listening to one source.

CK7 has titanium alloy enclosure, not steel. They indeed sound very good, especially if you have warm and bassy source. On the other hand, the soundstage of CK7 is not so big, FWIR RE2 have far bigger soundstage.

They probably sound like crap, since 7 months after release, there's no reviews and discussions here (apart from this little thread). Besides the words "dual armature" and "new" works like "honey pot" to head-fi/hi-fi world. If no one has them already (or maybe has, but there's nothing to rave...

If you're looking for an IEM that will let you ANALYZE music, then Phonak is a good choice. If you just want to enjoy your music, keep saving for IE8 or IE7.

You should be able to hunt down Denon C751 on british eBay. They're very often below 70E. If eBay is not an option, go for C551. Very nice for prog, especially when you have such bright and bass-shy source like Nano 3g.

Yep, I agree. The CK7 sounds very good unamped. They're low impedance, easy to drive ...so they won't benefit much from an amp.

Future Sonics Atrio M5 (or M8) ...according to a LOT of opinions here, or Denons C700 (or 751). Both known from good bass. I own the second ones and the bass and treble are indeed very nice.

Ipod Touch is light on bass. Phonak is not a good headphone for it. At least, if you like full, warm and neutral sound. With Touch, I guess they'll be quite analytical with small bass quantity.

Glad you've found something to buy Yeah, after burn in the should be better.

What's your DAP ? If it's bright/neutral sounding (like i.e iPod Touch) take something with good bass (atrio). If the DAP is dark and bassy (i.e Cowon D2) take some bright headphones (Etymotic/ Phonak). Also, take a look at Q-Jays. They have similiar to Etymotic, sound signature, but better...

Don't own Fiio e5, so cannot tell for sure. But I guess they'll benefit too, from this little amp.

Recommending fake product is just not good. For the sake of people who really created this model.

Quote: Originally Posted by Nocturnal310 what kind of music suits them best?..maybe i shud already make a playlist on my iPod True audiophile statement... When someone is listening more to the headphones (or other gear), than the music by itself. Sorry for offtop.

Quote: Originally Posted by kwang411 I really like my d2000 and if c700/751 sounds similar i will definitely grab a pair. Thanks in advance! They do I have C700 and D1001. Exactly the same sound signature, warm, fun and entertaining sound. I'd say, that straight from an Ipod...

Well. I had the same feelings about S-Jays. Very prone to EQ and definitelly not "basshead" headphones ...as someone said. When amped, they have a LOT of potential.

Well for 75 euros, I would hunt for Denons C751. From time to time, they are on ebay.co.uk for buy in this price range. If, for some reason, you cannot buy from uk ebay, take whatever you like better from look. If your ears aren't spoiled by some high-end in-ear stuff you won't tell the...

Yeap, if they are genuine. For 32.99, I doubt it.

Quote: Originally Posted by mark2410 well i dont see much but here is this in case you havent worked how to use the search on here properly yet Jays thread search This will not work for anyone except you and your current web session. So this link is useless for anyone except you...

Denons are also bassy. You may consider Audio Technica CK7 which has some sparkle-treble or S-Jays SiREN, which sound very good after a bit of EQing (very forward presentation, great for vocals). ...Hmm... also wouln't mind trying Sony EX500

Just buy those, who are similiar in size, to the silicon ones you are using right now. If you use medium silicones, then buy medium Olives. Also, you can always ask Shure ...or people here to give you the diameter of different sized Olives and then compare it to the silicone tips.

The price/performance ratio is not linear. I'd say it's logarythmic with a lot of fluctuations. When you compare $4 (sorry, I don't have GBP on my keyboard) headphone to $40 headphone the difference will be HUGE. When you compare $50 one to ...let's say 150$ one, the difference will be...

I also vote for Phonak Audeo. They have great review and by the way, also look very nice. Second thought is Q-Jays - they're also compared to Ety's (bright, analytical sound). ER4 are a legend and no doubt, you'd love them, but they gain very much from an amp ...so not sure if this is such a...

Denons C551/C700/C751 and Audio Technica CK7 are also brilliant without amp - if you like musical, entertaining, "fun" sound.