I also had the 325i for a while but sold them because I just couldn't bear all the things your describing, I probably would have ruined my hearing if I would continue to use them. And I also tried the flats and it didn't work at all, in fact it made things worse. They did however fit quite...

My car has BOSE Speakers in it and honestly I ain't that impressed by the sound. The bass is pretty much non existent and there's no punch whatsoever for rock music.

I think Pioneer has headphones with one sided cable.

I also have the 325i and involving would fit the description. You really are at the edge of your seat listening with these. It's really all about what your hearing is like. You should pick the headphones that pair with your ears the best. Seenheiser are mellow sounding and not as aggressive as...

Quote: Originally Posted by mobayrasta Idea to make Grado SR60 quieter for person close to me ? Turn them down some. Give your buddy earprotection. Trust me it's the only way.

Quote: Originally Posted by NiceCans (emphasis added) with the bowls = as in both at once? Pic? I don't have the 414 pads myself but it seems likely you would use the bowls with them. Otherwise they would be too loose you might think.

It will not work. If you cover the outside it will sound like crap. If you want quiet headphones buy closed cans.

I don't even have a headphone stand.

Grado's is nice because you can veil your music yourself with flats when it becomes too fatiquing. With senns they are veiled all the time which some people might find disturbing. The good thing about the "veil" is that you can have higher volume without hurting your ears.

Quote: Originally Posted by MaZa Its not matter of if headphones are good or if hearing is good. Peoples ears pick different frequencies differently. For some ears that diffuse field equalisation dips are acoustically exactly correct, to others its what they are like in frequency curve...

Quote: Originally Posted by ozz i guess my hearing is not that good my 580's sound great i would like to upgrade to 650's later i don't get the veil thing. Maybe you don't "hear" the veil because your hearing is good. That makes more sense.

Haha, I thought liberator would be a wierd name for a pad. Well it look interesting no doubt.

What kind of pads are liberators?

I have those, great headphones. The upper treble can be harsh (crash cymbal) but there's really not a problem with distortion unless you turn up the volume too much, which you shouldn't do.

Quote: Originally Posted by augustwest You guys are so lucky having the K1000's. It's the only headphone that I still lust for. - augustwest I've heard they are called headspeakers but maybe that's just a nickname.

Quote: Originally Posted by edude So, this is just a made up term for something that doesn't exist by sennhieser haters. got it. I don't want to have ice picks shoved into my ear like with these other headphones, so i'll be buying the 650s! Maybe there is a "veil". So what? I...

Thinking about how cheap I got these I wouldn't want to swap for anything definetly not SR225. I'm actually at two sides of the fence at the same time because I like the brightness and do not like it at the same time. That's why this pad swapping sounds great for I will be able to change...

I'm saying they are bright for me. I like this also in some music, not so much in other.

Quote: Originally Posted by MaZa !!! What you are using as your source and amplifier? I listen DEATHMETAL with SR225 and detail is great even in intense music like that. I'm using my computer and you probably going to tell me that's the problem. But I've tried it with an...

I have Grado SR325i and SR80. And they can be fatiquing at times especially the SR325i, (higher mids) the SR80 is worse with upper treble. I find stuff like ACDC or hard rock generally doesn't sound that pleasing to me. It's hard to hear the detail and separation when the mids are so strong...

Good purchase. I would recommend the Grado's with the bowls removed altogether. Boy does that sound sweet or not! Actually it's sounds like crap though so don't try that. Anyway I also bought the 414 pads, 2 pairs. They haven't arrived yet, still waiting.

Quote: Originally Posted by Gurra1980 I think they are gona have a switch where you can adjust the sound, Grado Harsh, Beyer Bass, and Senn veil just to make everyone happy Why not make a headphone that has all the "harshness" of Grado, bass of Beyerdynamics and the veil of the...

I have bought my first pair of high end phones just recently (Grado 325i) and I do agree on them being harsh in the lower-upper registers. I have to use a equalizer when listing, just drop the 2 khz frequency because I can't stand it otherwise. But the sound is freaking detailed. You do notice...

Would it be worth buying a Grado Mini Adapter Cable? They are quite expensive here. I'm using a normal non-cable adapter right now.

I have the 325i's and indeed crystal clear would be a good description.