tfarney
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No, it is a very direct answer to your post. Have you forgotten?
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If I wanted to tell you to do anything unseemly to yourself, I could do so directly, though I might choose PM. What I wanted to do was to point out to you that discussing integrated amps in a thread entitled "Using full-sized integrated amps," indicates an interest in the subject, not the fanaticism of a "true believer."
We could have a discussion of design, I suppose, but that would be another thread. And personally, I wouldn't be terribly interested, as I'm really only interested in how amps sound and hold up to use. How that is achieved doesn't matter much to me. But I can assure you that, regardless of design, with my HD580s, my old Harman Kardon integrated sounds better than my Headroom Airhead, is the subjective equal of the Glow Audio Amp One (technically an integrated, but no resistors, no op amps, no compromises in the HP stage), is not quite as detailed, but arguably more pleasant to listen to than several other headphone amps (mostly studio systems ) I've heard.
Any decent comparison of my integrated (or any integrated) and any of the above would require more detail, of course, and would be subject to judgment. Any blanket statements would be the reaction of the true believer. The discussion you seem to want to have, which is capsulized in this statement:
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...really leaves no room for discussion. You apparently believe headphone amps, evidently all headphone amps, are in a class above all HP sections of integrated amps and receivers. What would be your point in painting with that very broad brush in this thread, of all places?
Tim
| Originally Posted by rds /img/forum/go_quote.gif OK, I get it. This is effectively telling me to go ****** myself. This is actually the reason I wrote my post. Simply I think it is bad for the discussion to try to exclude all those but the converted. And, yes, that is what you're doing in a passive aggressive form of ad hominem attack. I'm not trying to tell you what you can like. Read my post and you will see that. My point is about design, which is open to rationale argument. |
No, it is a very direct answer to your post. Have you forgotten?
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| I think it's worth mentioning that at this point there are only the 'true believers' left in this discussion of speaker amp vs headphone amp. I have gone over the relevant threads to this topic and haven't seen any persuasive arguments that speaker amps are in the same class as headphone amps for driving headphones. Don't get me wrong I have read the arguments, but in my opinion they are patently wrong. Many people pointed this out and gave reasons why headphone amps are in another class when it comes to driving headphones. However, it seems they were shouted down with the often repeated, now de facto truth, that the myth that an amp designed with headphones specifically in mind (all else being equal) is superior has been debunked. This is something to keep in mind. I'm not trying to repeat what has already been said many times. I just hope to provide a little perspective. |
If I wanted to tell you to do anything unseemly to yourself, I could do so directly, though I might choose PM. What I wanted to do was to point out to you that discussing integrated amps in a thread entitled "Using full-sized integrated amps," indicates an interest in the subject, not the fanaticism of a "true believer."
We could have a discussion of design, I suppose, but that would be another thread. And personally, I wouldn't be terribly interested, as I'm really only interested in how amps sound and hold up to use. How that is achieved doesn't matter much to me. But I can assure you that, regardless of design, with my HD580s, my old Harman Kardon integrated sounds better than my Headroom Airhead, is the subjective equal of the Glow Audio Amp One (technically an integrated, but no resistors, no op amps, no compromises in the HP stage), is not quite as detailed, but arguably more pleasant to listen to than several other headphone amps (mostly studio systems ) I've heard.
Any decent comparison of my integrated (or any integrated) and any of the above would require more detail, of course, and would be subject to judgment. Any blanket statements would be the reaction of the true believer. The discussion you seem to want to have, which is capsulized in this statement:
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| I have gone over the relevant threads to this topic and haven't seen any persuasive arguments that speaker amps are in the same class as headphone amps for driving headphones. |
...really leaves no room for discussion. You apparently believe headphone amps, evidently all headphone amps, are in a class above all HP sections of integrated amps and receivers. What would be your point in painting with that very broad brush in this thread, of all places?
Tim
