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Jun 6, 2020 at 3:23 PM Post #3,886 of 6,159
First photo default lg player direct from g8x.2nd photo uapp via usb-c to fiio mk2.so am i getting native dsd playback?

My guess after Android 10 update:

Between Lg music player and QuadDAC through phone audio jack - native DSD playback is enabled. One good way to check is no equalizers or audio effect will work in native DSD mode. If equalizer work and you hear difference then dsd to pcm conversion taking place.

Through USB-C, no.
 
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Jun 6, 2020 at 3:26 PM Post #3,887 of 6,159
My friend you are equating Native DSD to Bitperfect...
 
Jun 6, 2020 at 3:28 PM Post #3,888 of 6,159
My friend you are equating Native DSD to Bitperfect...

Oops...typo error during DoP explanation.

What i meant to say G8X does not support is DoP (DSD over PCM), which is completely different from native DSD playback support. My V30+ supports DoP. What this means is V30+ is able to transport DSD over its USB-C port to an external DAC. To transmit DSD data on a USB port using DoP is to package the DSD data in PCM form. To be clear, this is NOT a data conversion from DSD to PCM. The data are unchanged. The DAC on the other side of V30's USB port must also be DoP compliant in order to reassemble the DoP PCM bits into a continuous DSD stream. Now with DoP gone for G8X, LG Music app in G8X will perform software conversion of DSD to 88200Hz PCM while transporting through USB-C to the external DAC resulting is some loss in quality.

Please correct me if i am missing anything.
 
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Jun 6, 2020 at 3:47 PM Post #3,889 of 6,159
Both photos attached playing same dsd file using uapp from headphone jack.Left is G8x and Right V30+.V30+(android 9) decode dsd while G8x (android 10)downsample to 353khz.
But the defaul lg player show its decoding dsd natively on G8x.So what i dont understand is uapp is downsampling to 352khz
 

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Jun 6, 2020 at 10:17 PM Post #3,891 of 6,159
Okay, this might have been answered but my search results were a mess. Anybody have UAPP working on Fiio M6 or M9?
Sadly i couldn't find anything and i have been dying to use it on the M6.. Please do let me know if you find anything.
 
Jun 6, 2020 at 10:33 PM Post #3,893 of 6,159

Thanks again ac67. I had seen that thread previously.

So I guess the key questions are:

Did the LG V50 have the ability to natively (or via DoP) play DSD files prior to Android 10? I am specifically referring to using the V50's Hi-Fi Quad DAC for earphone listening via the headphone jack.
If it did indeed have that ability previously, then is it possible to roll back to Android 9?

Thanks again in advance to ac and any others who may be able to pitch in on those specific questions.
 
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Jun 6, 2020 at 11:10 PM Post #3,894 of 6,159
Both photos attached playing same dsd file using uapp from headphone jack.Left is G8x and Right V30+.V30+(android 9) decode dsd while G8x (android 10)downsample to 353khz.
But the defaul lg player show its decoding dsd natively on G8x.So what i dont understand is uapp is downsampling to 352khz

Is it a UAPP issue on Android 10?. It is not able to do what the default app is doing?
 
Jun 6, 2020 at 11:31 PM Post #3,896 of 6,159
I dont know id it is uapp issur on Android 10.Hopefully Davy can enlighten us

When playing native DSD mode in default player, are the equilizers inside the player disabled?

V30+ shows the message "Audio effects are unavailable for high resolution audio files"

And even if they are available are you able to notice while toggling between various preset equilizer settings?
 
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Jun 7, 2020 at 12:36 AM Post #3,898 of 6,159
When playing native DSD mode in default player, are the equilizers inside the player disabled?

V30+ shows the message "Audio effects are unavailable for high resolution audio files"

And even if they are available are you able to notice while toggling between various preset equilizer settings?
There is no on/off toggle for the equalizer on the G8x audio setting.but it in in Normal setting
 

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Jun 7, 2020 at 2:29 AM Post #3,899 of 6,159
There is no on/off toggle for the equalizer on the G8x audio setting.but it in in Normal setting

While playing DSD through default music player, is equalizer enabled? Can you change between different presents, like Rock, Pop, Jazz or even custom? Do you hear any audible differences during DSD playback with stock player?
 
Jun 7, 2020 at 3:03 AM Post #3,900 of 6,159
While playing DSD through default music player, is equalizer enabled? Can you change between different presents, like Rock, Pop, Jazz or even custom? Do you hear any audible differences during DSD playback with stock player?
Yup there are some slight changes to the sound when i try changing some of the equalizer preset.So that mean the G8x default player is not playing bit-perfect
 

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