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Oct 6, 2023 at 9:26 AM Post #65,911 of 90,673
Tally so far (REALLY loving the diversity in the upper echelons in this list...speaks to a healthy and diverse community):

Fir Rn6 x18
Oriolus Traillii x15
Subtonic Storm x15

Elysian Annihilator x14
Campfire Audio Trifecta x13
Fir Xe6 x13


Noble Audio Viking x9
Nightjar Singularity x9
Sony IER Z1R x8
Empire Ears Raven x8
VIsion Ears Phönix/LE x6
Campfire Audio Bonneville x6
Unique Melody Mentor x6
Fir Electron 12 x5
Noble Ronin x4
FATfreq Grand Maestro x4
Elysian Diva x4
FatFreq Maestro SE x4
Aroma Jewel x4
Unique Melody Amber Pearl x4
Penon 10th x4
VE/AK Aura x4
Aroma Fei Wan x3
64 Audio a/u12t x3
Fitear DC TI x3
AüR Audio Neon Pro x3
Empire/AK Odyssey x3
Symphonium Crimson x3
NightJar Duality x3
Dita Perpetua x3

Sennheiser ie600 x2
Aroma Thunder x2
Campfire Audio Supermoon x2
Vision Ears EXT x2
Vision Ears VEX x2
Sound Rhyme DTE900 x2
Empire Ears Legend Evo x2
Final Audio E5000 x2
Night Oblivion Butastur x2
Softears Turii Ti x2
Custom Art Fibae 5 x2
Campfire Audio Andromeda x2
Airpods Pro 2 x2
Nostalgia Audio Camelot x2
AüR Audio Aurora x2
Sound Rhyme SR8 x2
64 Audio u4s x2
Unique Melody Mason x2
Simphonio P0 x2
7th Acoustics Supernova x2
Thieaudio Monarch MKii/iii x2
Oriolus Szalayi x2

Sennheiser ie900
Empire Ears Bravado MKii
IMR Acoustics Titan
IKKO OH5 Asgard
UM Mest
Fitear TG334
Etymotic ER4XR
634ears Miroak-II Cocobolo
Hyla Audio TE-5B
Plunge Audio Unity
Penon Serial
64 Audio a/u18s
Canpur 622B
Vision Ears VE8
Campfire Andromeda Emerald Sea
MA Eclipse
64 Audio Fourte Blanc
KIwi Ears Cadenza
Shure KSE-1200
Goldplanar GL-AMT16
Shure SE846
Kinera Imperial Loki
Beyerdynamic Xelento 2
FATfreq Maestro Mini
Campfire Audio Ponderosa
Softears Turii
Rhapsodio Eden
Ambient Acoustics MAD24
64 Audio Nio
Unique Melody Le Jardin
Custom Art Hybrid 3 Pro
Custom Art FIBAE 7 Unlimited
Moondrop Variations
Penon Impact
Soranik Basilica
Truthear Nova
64 Audio Volume
Empire Ears Legend X
Technics EAH-TZ700
Kiwi ears Quintet,
Empire Ears Valkyrie
Penon Orb
TGX Ear Serratus
Rhapsodio Supreme V3
Audeze LCD-i4
Elysian Dio (Proto)
Fir Kr5
ISN EST50

i don’t think it was an arbitrary choice they made. it was a deliberate one to overcome some tuning issues they had on the way.

Oh no doubt it wasn't. I'm just curious what the reason was, especially when weighed against the practical cost of severly constricting what one can use as a source. I find Singularity needs a lot of power-- it sounds magnificent through my Rs8...but it is lacking through my SR35, which is my favorite and most used portable source, which means it doesn't get as much ear time as otherwise it would. This is just a personal use case thing for me, but I am curious.

RN6 VS XE6..I have the Singularity and am looking for something which has even better bass as I usually listen to Hip Hop.

Trifecta is fantastic with hip hop. And if you're interested in dipping your toes into the classics and maybe scoring a deal on the used market you should consider the Empire Ears Legend X...utterly magnificent with hip hop.
 
Oct 6, 2023 at 9:33 AM Post #65,912 of 90,673
Venom gives Anni a much bigger bass response. In fact, it sounds more like X.
Thank you. By bigger do you mean more elevated or more impact?

I find the Annihilator 2023’s mid-bass teetering on excessive as it is. I’m not sure more mid-bass/bass elevation is what I’m looking for.

Does Venom impacts note weight and timbre as well? I find Anni 23 a little lean at times. Particularly the treble.
 
Oct 6, 2023 at 9:41 AM Post #65,914 of 90,673
I find either RN6 or XE6 great with Hip-Hop with RN6 having a slight edge but that's just me. Cable rolling XE6 and lifting it's thick mid bass helps with sub bass.

If you want exaggerated sub bass, EVO is great suggestion. Alternate to FiRs is FF Grand Maestro.
 
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Oct 6, 2023 at 9:44 AM Post #65,916 of 90,673
I find either RN6 or XE6 great with Hip-Hop with RN6 having a slight edge but that's just me. Cable rolling XE6 and lifting it's thick mid bass helps with sub bass.

If you want exaggerated sub bass, EVO is great suggestion.
I like sub bass rumble far more than Mid Bass. Thanks for your suggestion.
 
Oct 6, 2023 at 9:46 AM Post #65,917 of 90,673
Tally so far (REALLY loving the diversity in the upper echelons in this list...speaks to a healthy and diverse community):

Fir Rn6 x18
Oriolus Traillii x15
Subtonic Storm x15

Elysian Annihilator x14
Campfire Audio Trifecta x13
Fir Xe6 x13


Noble Audio Viking x9
Nightjar Singularity x9
Sony IER Z1R x8
Empire Ears Raven x8
VIsion Ears Phönix/LE x6
Campfire Audio Bonneville x6
Unique Melody Mentor x6
Fir Electron 12 x5
Noble Ronin x4
FATfreq Grand Maestro x4
Elysian Diva x4
FatFreq Maestro SE x4
Aroma Jewel x4
Unique Melody Amber Pearl x4
Penon 10th x4
VE/AK Aura x4
Aroma Fei Wan x3
64 Audio a/u12t x3
Fitear DC TI x3
AüR Audio Neon Pro x3
Empire/AK Odyssey x3
Symphonium Crimson x3
NightJar Duality x3
Dita Perpetua x3

Sennheiser ie600 x2
Aroma Thunder x2
Campfire Audio Supermoon x2
Vision Ears EXT x2
Vision Ears VEX x2
Sound Rhyme DTE900 x2
Empire Ears Legend Evo x2
Final Audio E5000 x2
Night Oblivion Butastur x2
Softears Turii Ti x2
Custom Art Fibae 5 x2
Campfire Audio Andromeda x2
Airpods Pro 2 x2
Nostalgia Audio Camelot x2
AüR Audio Aurora x2
Sound Rhyme SR8 x2
64 Audio u4s x2
Unique Melody Mason x2
Simphonio P0 x2
7th Acoustics Supernova x2
Thieaudio Monarch MKii/iii x2
Oriolus Szalayi x2

Sennheiser ie900
Empire Ears Bravado MKii
IMR Acoustics Titan
IKKO OH5 Asgard
UM Mest
Fitear TG334
Etymotic ER4XR
634ears Miroak-II Cocobolo
Hyla Audio TE-5B
Plunge Audio Unity
Penon Serial
64 Audio a/u18s
Canpur 622B
Vision Ears VE8
Campfire Andromeda Emerald Sea
MA Eclipse
64 Audio Fourte Blanc
KIwi Ears Cadenza
Shure KSE-1200
Goldplanar GL-AMT16
Shure SE846
Kinera Imperial Loki
Beyerdynamic Xelento 2
FATfreq Maestro Mini
Campfire Audio Ponderosa
Softears Turii
Rhapsodio Eden
Ambient Acoustics MAD24
64 Audio Nio
Unique Melody Le Jardin
Custom Art Hybrid 3 Pro
Custom Art FIBAE 7 Unlimited
Moondrop Variations
Penon Impact
Soranik Basilica
Truthear Nova
64 Audio Volume
Empire Ears Legend X
Technics EAH-TZ700
Kiwi ears Quintet,
Empire Ears Valkyrie
Penon Orb
TGX Ear Serratus
Rhapsodio Supreme V3
Audeze LCD-i4
Elysian Dio (Proto)
Fir Kr5
ISN EST50



Oh no doubt it wasn't. I'm just curious what the reason was, especially when weighed against the practical cost of severly constricting what one can use as a source. I find Singularity needs a lot of power-- it sounds magnificent through my Rs8...but it is lacking through my SR35, which is my favorite and most used portable source, which means it doesn't get as much ear time as otherwise it would. This is just a personal use case thing for me, but I am curious.



Trifecta is fantastic with hip hop. And if you're interested in dipping your toes into the classics and maybe scoring a deal on the used market you should consider the Empire Ears Legend X...utterly magnificent with hip hop.
Trifecta vs EE Legend X or Evo
Which would you recommend?
 
Oct 6, 2023 at 9:48 AM Post #65,918 of 90,673
I find either RN6 or XE6 great with Hip-Hop with RN6 having a slight edge but that's just me. Cable rolling XE6 and lifting it's thick mid bass helps with sub bass.

If you want exaggerated sub bass, EVO is great suggestion. Alternate to FiRs is FF Grand Maestro.
Grand Maestro as an alternate to FIR or better sub bass?
 
Oct 6, 2023 at 9:50 AM Post #65,919 of 90,673
Trifecta vs EE Legend X or Evo
Which would you recommend?

Purely for Hip Hop? Trifecta is my favorite IEM so I'm biased. Hip Hop counts for maybe 20% of what I listen to. EVO never did jive with me due to it's upper mid tuning. I'd probably say go for the LX simply because it's absolutel fire with hip hop and can probably be had for a decent bargain on the used market.
 
Oct 6, 2023 at 10:05 AM Post #65,920 of 90,673
Grand Maestro as an alternate to FIR or better sub bass?

As an alternate to FiR's as an IEM. It's been some time I've listened to GM while I was looking for a replacement for my EVO but I recall enjoying GM's overall and flexible tuning including bass and sub bass. I wasn't a fan of EVO's upper mid and treble tuning, elastic "plasticky" sub bass reverb which I hear on some tracks plus I had issues with driver flex but did enjoy it with certain genres and tracks.

Raven or LX are other considerations – I personally haven't auditioned it yet.
 
Oct 6, 2023 at 10:06 AM Post #65,921 of 90,673
Sounds like Raven is being recalled...so it's off the table for the time being it appears.
 
Oct 6, 2023 at 10:11 AM Post #65,922 of 90,673
Sounds like Raven is being recalled...so it's off the table for the time being it appears.

Ah, interesting. I had unsubbed when I remove Raven off my list. Despite no issues rolling my EVOs weekly I didn't want to take a chance.
 
Oct 6, 2023 at 10:17 AM Post #65,923 of 90,673
Trifecta vs EE Legend X or Evo
Which would you recommend?
Trifecta imho, but I don’t own EVO. Trifecta reminds me of the old stereo systems that used to pump out Jayo Felony and DJ Quik at house parties. Good times. The sheer power and verticality of Trifecta is perfect with hip hop.
 
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Oct 6, 2023 at 10:23 AM Post #65,924 of 90,673
Purely for Hip Hop? Trifecta is my favorite IEM so I'm biased. Hip Hop counts for maybe 20% of what I listen to. EVO never did jive with me due to it's upper mid tuning. I'd probably say go for the LX simply because it's absolutel fire with hip hop and can probably be had for a decent bargain on the used market.
Many thanks 🙏
 
Oct 6, 2023 at 10:24 AM Post #65,925 of 90,673
Trifecta imho, but I don’t own EVO. Trifecta reminds me of the old stereo systems that used to pump out Jayo Felony and DJ Quik at house parties. Good times. The sheer power and verticality of Trifecta is perfect with hip hop.
This old stereo sound is perfect for 90's Hip Hop. Singularity is great but it is absolutely modern sounding.
 

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