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The Official Beyerdynamic T1 Impressions and Discussion Thread
John Q Lin
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T1 or TH900, what do you guys think?
T1 or TH900, what do you guys think?
Depends on what you what, bass or highs. Also depends on what you are using to drive them, TH-900 not as amp picky but T1 to me depends on the amp.
John Q Lin
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My amp is the grace m9xx, I like good mids, and bass.
My amp is the grace m9xx, I like good mids, and bass.
If you like good mids and bass, then I would look at something other than the T1 or TH-900, both are lacking a touch in the mids to me, both are great sounding but there are others with better mids. Might want to look into the latest version of the LCD-2f, EL8 open, HE-400i or even a HD-650, all which have better mids than the T1 and TH-900 IMO and are not lacking in bass either.
John Q Lin
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I already have the he500, I don't think the hps you reconmand can beat it in mids.
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I already have the he500, I don't think the hps you reconmand can beat it in mids.
If you like good mids and bass, then I would look at something other than the T1 or TH-900, both are lacking a touch in the mids to me, both are great sounding but there are others with better mids. Might want to look into the latest version of the LCD-2f, EL8 open, HE-400i or even a HD-650, all which have better mids than the T1 and TH-900 IMO and are not lacking in bass either.
In part, I do think it depends on what kind of a mid-emphasis you're looking for. I personally steered clear of the EL8 - sounded rather off to me. HE-400i was definitely more fun sounding with slight bass and treble emphasis, not exactly what I'd call a mid-focused can. The HD-650 is good, with a thick and full mid-range. LCD-2s play in this category, though it could be said that it is a tad bass heavy. Fazored I did find it to be fairly agreeable though! The T1 has a very clean mid range that extends pretty darned well in the uppermids, making a good transition to the highs. Definitely not an option to be written off.
@John Q Lin do you have anything particular in mind?
John Q Lin
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I already have the he500, I don't think the hps you reconmand can beat it in mids.
If you like good mids and bass, then I would look at something other than the T1 or TH-900, both are lacking a touch in the mids to me, both are great sounding but there are others with better mids. Might want to look into the latest version of the LCD-2f, EL8 open, HE-400i or even a HD-650, all which have better mids than the T1 and TH-900 IMO and are not lacking in bass either.
In part, I do think it depends on what kind of a mid-emphasis you're looking for. I personally steered clear of the EL8 - sounded rather off to me. HE-400i was definitely more fun sounding with slight bass and treble emphasis, not exactly what I'd call a mid-focused can. The HD-650 is good, with a thick and full mid-range. LCD-2s play in this category, though it could be said that it is a tad bass heavy. Fazored I did find it to be fairly agreeable though! The T1 has a very clean mid range that extends pretty darned well in the uppermids, making a good transition to the highs. Definitely not an option to be written off.
@John Q Lin do you have anything particular in mind?
It's either Frostex TH-900 or the T1
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It's either Frostex TH-900 or the T1
TH-900 is definitely not known for its bass. T1 Gen1 is a mid/treble based HP, where as the Gen 2 has a slightly reduced treble and a slightly boosted bass response. If you're intent on mids, Gen 1 is a very good option in my opinion.
I already have the he500, I don't think the hps you reconmand can beat it in mids.
If you like good mids and bass, then I would look at something other than the T1 or TH-900, both are lacking a touch in the mids to me, both are great sounding but there are others with better mids. Might want to look into the latest version of the LCD-2f, EL8 open, HE-400i or even a HD-650, all which have better mids than the T1 and TH-900 IMO and are not lacking in bass either.
In part, I do think it depends on what kind of a mid-emphasis you're looking for. I personally steered clear of the EL8 - sounded rather off to me. HE-400i was definitely more fun sounding with slight bass and treble emphasis, not exactly what I'd call a mid-focused can. The HD-650 is good, with a thick and full mid-range. LCD-2s play in this category, though it could be said that it is a tad bass heavy. Fazored I did find it to be fairly agreeable though! The T1 has a very clean mid range that extends pretty darned well in the uppermids, making a good transition to the highs. Definitely not an option to be written off.
@John Q Lin do you have anything particular in mind?
It's either Frostex TH-900 or the T1
Why just these two?
If you get the TH-900, consider the Lawton tuneup. For $50 it will give you better overall sound.
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If it is either TH-900 or the T1, I would choose the T1 definitely. The T1 is only headphone I have, other than the MDR-SA3000 which I had sold, allows me listening to a vocalist moving towards to / away from the microphone in a recording, similar to what you can experience in a good speaker setup. Once you have experienced this kind of 3D realism, every other headphone will sound flat, no matter how its FR is like.
John Q Lin
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I already have the he500, I don't think the hps you reconmand can beat it in mids.
If you like good mids and bass, then I would look at something other than the T1 or TH-900, both are lacking a touch in the mids to me, both are great sounding but there are others with better mids. Might want to look into the latest version of the LCD-2f, EL8 open, HE-400i or even a HD-650, all which have better mids than the T1 and TH-900 IMO and are not lacking in bass either.
In part, I do think it depends on what kind of a mid-emphasis you're looking for. I personally steered clear of the EL8 - sounded rather off to me. HE-400i was definitely more fun sounding with slight bass and treble emphasis, not exactly what I'd call a mid-focused can. The HD-650 is good, with a thick and full mid-range. LCD-2s play in this category, though it could be said that it is a tad bass heavy. Fazored I did find it to be fairly agreeable though! The T1 has a very clean mid range that extends pretty darned well in the uppermids, making a good transition to the highs. Definitely not an option to be written off.
@John Q Lin do you have anything particular in mind?
It's either Frostex TH-900 or the T1
Why just these two?
If you get the TH-900, consider the Lawton tuneup. For $50 it will give you better overall sound.
I don't know why, I unfortunately does not have a chance to demo any of the high end cans. I'm going with those two base on the impression of others. they seem to be held in high regards. I heard great thing about the He6 as well and the lcd 2, they are also on my list, but money is the biggest issue, I think the He500 beats the 400i and hd650. so im not going go down that road, and I have the hd600.
John Q Lin
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If it is either TH-900 or the T1, I would choose the T1 definitely. The T1 is only headphone I have, other than the MDR-SA3000 which I had sold, allows me listening to a vocalist moving towards to / away from the microphone in a recording, similar to what you can experience in a good speaker setup. Once you have experienced this kind of 3D realism, every other headphone will sound flat, no matter how its FR is like.
I see you have the he500 too, which one gets more head time? So, T1 its more realistic sounding? or true to the recording?
@John Q Lin, I hope that you are also considering the whole audio chain that is used when someone gives their impression of how that headphone sounds. While I've only heard the HE-500 on my friends system (Hugo TT) and it sounded great, but when I compared it to a HD-650 driven with a MHDT Pagoda (DAC) and Liquid glass (amp) the HE-500 couldn't match it, bass, mids, and highs are all better on the HD-650. I use a BH Crack for the HD-650 and I feel that its still slightly better than the HE-500 in the mids, bass is better on the HE-500, the highs are about even to me.
T1 is another headphone that I feel needs to be driven properly to get the most out of them, while they sound great with the BH Crack, they go to another level with better gear.
@thatonenoob, I always though the TH-900 was known for its bass, its listed on many bass-head can lists, or did I read it wrong
T1 is another headphone that I feel needs to be driven properly to get the most out of them, while they sound great with the BH Crack, they go to another level with better gear.
@thatonenoob, I always though the TH-900 was known for its bass, its listed on many bass-head can lists, or did I read it wrong
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@John Q Lin, I hope that you are also considering the whole audio chain that is used when someone gives their impression of how that headphone sounds. While I've only heard the HE-500 on my friends system (Hugo TT) and it sounded great, but when I compared it to a HD-650 driven with a MHDT Pagoda (DAC) and Liquid glass (amp) the HE-500 couldn't match it, bass, mids, and highs are all better on the HD-650. I use a BH Crack for the HD-650 and I feel that its still slightly better than the HE-500 in the mids, bass is better on the HE-500, the highs are about even to me.
T1 is another headphone that I feel needs to be driven properly to get the most out of them, while they sound great with the BH Crack, they go to another level with better gear.
@thatonenoob, I always though the TH-900 was known for its bass, its listed on many bass-head can lists, or did I read it wrong
Yes the TH-900 is known for it's bass along with the TH-600. In my opinion, they can have a little to much bass depending on the material you're listening to, but most of time it's just right. The TH-900 has clean, tight bass as well.
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