[Q Mass]

No, only the official Tidal apps can do that and the R3 doesn't support Spotify at all.

Damn, Thanks anyway @SteveOliver
I wish more of these DAPs allowed offline.
Even if it were an option available at a higher price (to pay for licensing, which I assume is what prevents manufacturers....?) I'd bite, as Streaming servces on a portable device without offline seems somewhat pointless unless you've got a decent smartphone, AND are prepared to pay a fortune for a good cell data service, AND stay within wifi or cell service areas, AND use up your phone battery.
I'd rather pay a bit more for the device so I can use it the way I do my Echobox Explorer (download my playlists, done).
Smaller devices like the R3 pro, Hidizs 80 pro, Tempotec V1-A etc really appeal, but without offline Spot or Tidal they're a bit pointless for me.
I love the streaming services, and rarely convert from disc, or buy HD downloads anymore.

My best solution for small, convenient portable use is looking like a BT adapter like the FIIO BTR5, Shanling U4 or Radsone ES100 (sorry Hiby, your W3 device doesn't appeal at all).

Does anyone think there's any prospect at all of offline coming to the R3 pro in the future?

My dream device would be something like the R3 pro, but with 'offline streaming', and the option to control it via smartphone (could even conceivably do without a screen if Hiby-link would allow 'remote control' of the DAP without constantly draining the phone battery like using both player apps AND Bluetooth at the same time does).

Waddaya think @Joe Bloggs?
Any prospect for offline streaming?

 

[Hamamo92]

No, only the official Tidal apps can do that and the R3 doesn't support Spotify at all.

Probably a very basic question. But since it doesn't support spotify, can it be used as a portable dac for Android smartphones say like fiio's q1 m2? And for Bluetooth function, is it a wireless dac or just a Bluetooth receiver?

 

[koaly]

It works flawlessly as BT DAC. I use it this way e.g. in places, where you need to login to public wifi. Hiby ignored the function of login, when provider requests simply click the button

 

[marcusd]

Hi everyone, our full review of the R3 Pro is now out

https://headfonics.com/2019/12/hiby-r3-pro-review/

 

[silverfishla]

Hi everyone, our full review of the R3 Pro is now out

https://headfonics.com/2019/12/hiby-r3-pro-review/

Great write up. It’s now on my list

 

[Q Mass]

Hi everyone, our full review of the R3 Pro is now out

https://headfonics.com/2019/12/hiby-r3-pro-review/

I agree, I'd be totally sold on this if the Tidal inclided offline use, it sounds like a great little DAP

 

[Joe Bloggs]

Damn, Thanks anyway @SteveOliver
I wish more of these DAPs allowed offline.
Even if it were an option available at a higher price (to pay for licensing, which I assume is what prevents manufacturers....?) I'd bite, as Streaming servces on a portable device without offline seems somewhat pointless unless you've got a decent smartphone, AND are prepared to pay a fortune for a good cell data service, AND stay within wifi or cell service areas, AND use up your phone battery.
I'd rather pay a bit more for the device so I can use it the way I do my Echobox Explorer (download my playlists, done).
Smaller devices like the R3 pro, Hidizs 80 pro, Tempotec V1-A etc really appeal, but without offline Spot or Tidal they're a bit pointless for me.
I love the streaming services, and rarely convert from disc, or buy HD downloads anymore.

My best solution for small, convenient portable use is looking like a BT adapter like the FIIO BTR5, Shanling U4 or Radsone ES100 (sorry Hiby, your W3 device doesn't appeal at all).

Does anyone think there's any prospect at all of offline coming to the R3 pro in the future?

My dream device would be something like the R3 pro, but with 'offline streaming', and the option to control it via smartphone (could even conceivably do without a screen if Hiby-link would allow 'remote control' of the DAP without constantly draining the phone battery like using both player apps AND Bluetooth at the same time does).

Waddaya think @Joe Bloggs?
Any prospect for offline streaming?

I don't see it coming unless TIDAL starts allowing it--then it would probably start showing up on all non android DAPs all of a sudden.

Probably a very basic question. But since it doesn't support spotify, can it be used as a portable dac for Android smartphones say like fiio's q1 m2? And for Bluetooth function, is it a wireless dac or just a Bluetooth receiver?

It can be a USB DAC for android smartphones. What do you mean by a wireless DAC? A bluetooth receiver takes the digital bluetooth signal and converts it to analog headphone output--this by definition is a wireless DAC. But apparently you're thinking of something more?

 

[Q Mass]

I don't see it coming unless TIDAL starts allowing it--then it would probably start showing up on all non android DAPs all of a sudden.

Oops, I was thinking that the R3 pro was an Android DAP for a minute.
The Tidal online access keeps fooling me into thinking "since it can do Tidal, surely offline can't be that much more difficult".
It's a damn shame as this DAP is very attractive in all other respects.

Can non Android devices provide offline Spotify, or does that share the same difficulties?

 

[435279]

Can non Android devices provide offline Spotify, or does that share the same difficulties?

No, Spotify has currently shown no interest in sharing details of their API with any third party device manufacturers.

The only way to play content from Spotify on a non-Android/IOS device is via Bluetooth.

 

[Hamamo92]

I don't see it coming unless TIDAL starts allowing it--then it would probably start showing up on all non android DAPs all of a sudden.


It can be a USB DAC for android smartphones. What do you mean by a wireless DAC? A bluetooth receiver takes the digital bluetooth signal and converts it to analog headphone output--this by definition is a wireless DAC. But apparently you're thinking of something more?

No, that's pretty much what I asked for. Thank you Joe.

 

[Tkaisr]

Would anyone be able and willing to compare the R3 Pro with Sony A55? same price range, but sony's runtime is double - and that is a lure

of course, only considering regular IEMs (below 50 ohm).

 

[Joe Bloggs]

Would anyone be able and willing to compare the R3 Pro with Sony A55? same price range, but sony's runtime is double - and that is a lure

of course, only considering regular IEMs (below 50 ohm).

Well, Sony doesn't say anything about their amp specs, but from the runtime specs we're led to believe that they are class D amps and/or of very low power output. Probably nothing wrong with that sonically, especially with efficient IEMs, but then by the same token nothing is wrong with the headphone port on your average smartphone either. (If it still has one)

 

[Ronfiets]

Damn, Thanks anyway @SteveOliver
I wish more of these DAPs allowed offline.
Even if it were an option available at a higher price (to pay for licensing, which I assume is what prevents manufacturers....?) I'd bite, as Streaming servces on a portable device without offline seems somewhat pointless unless you've got a decent smartphone, AND are prepared to pay a fortune for a good cell data service, AND stay within wifi or cell service areas, AND use up your phone battery.
I'd rather pay a bit more for the device so I can use it the way I do my Echobox Explorer (download my playlists, done).
Smaller devices like the R3 pro, Hidizs 80 pro, Tempotec V1-A etc really appeal, but without offline Spot or Tidal they're a bit pointless for me.
I love the streaming services, and rarely convert from disc, or buy HD downloads anymore.

My best solution for small, convenient portable use is looking like a BT adapter like the FIIO BTR5, Shanling U4 or Radsone ES100 (sorry Hiby, your W3 device doesn't appeal at all).

Does anyone think there's any prospect at all of offline coming to the R3 pro in the future?

My dream device would be something like the R3 pro, but with 'offline streaming', and the option to control it via smartphone (could even conceivably do without a screen if Hiby-link would allow 'remote control' of the DAP without constantly draining the phone battery like using both player apps AND Bluetooth at the same time does).

Waddaya think @Joe Bloggs?
Any prospect for offline streaming?

Ever heard of tidal-dl? Works great in combination with termux on Android.
There you have your offline Tidal.

 

[Q Mass]

Ever heard of tidal-dl? Works great in combination with termux on Android.
There you have your offline Tidal.

I haven't heard of either.
I shall investigate, thanks.

EDIT:

OK, I had a quick look, and it looks like you need an Android device to run termux and tidal-dl, so I can't see how it would help the R3?

Android cell phones can already do both Spotify and Tidal offline, so I'm struggling to see the utility of these apps in this context.
Am I missing something?

 

[weexisttocease]

I haven't heard of either.
I shall investigate, thanks.

EDIT:

OK, I had a quick look, and it looks like you need an Android device to run termux and tidal-dl, so I can't see how it would help the R3?

Android cell phones can already do both Spotify and Tidal offline, so I'm struggling to see the utility of these apps in this context.
Am I missing something?

I think it means you have to use the PC version for Windows and download the Hi-Fi files you want and than to the SD card of your DAP.