Stepping down from my K1000s... Way down
Feb 12, 2011 at 11:21 PM Post #16 of 36
Darthpants are just what I call Vaughn's paperstone-"woodied" T50RP. The design is modeled after Smeggy's "Thunderpants", which were the original creation. He logs some of his creation here:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/501773/thunderpants/915
 
And adds:
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They have changed slightly since then. I made a mechanical fitting which passes through the piece which fastens to the cup to make the connection more secure. I added a leather headband to make them a little more comfortable and Sony XB700 pads to make them ridiculously comfortable. Interestingly the Sony pads also greatly improved the sound over the stock pads. I think the slightly amorphous shape of the pads when compressed helps to break up any resonances between the driver and ear. A couple of current photos, there is a little fuzz on the foam gasket which seals the baffle and cup from repeated experimentation with different earpads. You could replace the foam tape if this is an issue for you.

 
Detailed information regarding the cups and damping schemes can be found throughout that thread, and the measurements are on pg18:
http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/501773/thunderpants/255
Cup design is on the page after that. I'm not sure what damping scheme smeggy uses on his mods, but others (IIRC, sachu, dbel84, Faust3D [for the stock T50RP enclosure, but probably applies to woody mods) have released their own damping schemes. I'd suggest skimming through that thread to get an idea of what's going on. If you have access to a shop and the time to spend tinkering with your cups and damping, then I would highly suggest trying out the T50RPs.
 
That said, after I made my last post I realized I was loving the Darthpants a little bit too much. I took a step back and noticed that there were a few areas of the frequency range that could use a little work. However I attribute this to the type of pad used. I guess over the next couple weeks I'll be hunting down possible pads to use...
 
Feb 13, 2011 at 12:41 AM Post #17 of 36
Thanks, I really appreciate the constant replies. = D
 
I think I'm going to go the simple route and get the K702s.  Thank you all for your contributions, and steering me away from my list, and to some pro cans!
 
Now, to find a pair in Canada for under $250...
 
 
Feb 13, 2011 at 6:19 AM Post #18 of 36


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Thanks, I really appreciate the constant replies. = D
 
I think I'm going to go the simple route and get the K702s.  Thank you all for your contributions, and steering me away from my list, and to some pro cans!
 
Now, to find a pair in Canada for under $250...
 


Try FS forum, or ebay....
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Feb 13, 2011 at 11:18 AM Post #20 of 36
Everyone on this forum claims that K701=K702, but according service manuals they use different drivers:
 
K701 2400Z0007
K702 2400Z0080
 
So are they really the same?
 
In my ears K701 sound horrible with electric guitars. You should hear them or buy used and you can sell them again.
 
Feb 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM Post #21 of 36

With house/deep-house, they sound fantastic. With electronic music in general they sound fantastic.
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Everyone on this forum claims that K701=K702, but according service manuals they use different drivers:
 
K701 2400Z0007
K702 2400Z0080
 
So are they really the same?
 
In my ears K701 sound horrible with electric guitars. You should hear them or buy used and you can sell them again.



 
Feb 13, 2011 at 12:01 PM Post #22 of 36
Electric guitar sound sounds just fine through my 701's.
 
Feb 13, 2011 at 1:40 PM Post #23 of 36
Aswell, Nightwish is one of my examples from a sub-genre I don't often frequent.  I'm more for the alternative/poppunk.
 
Feb 13, 2011 at 2:46 PM Post #24 of 36
The K701s are just fine for metal. It's my preferred genre, and I'm very particular to the tone of certain guitarists (Petrucci, Gilbert especially). The K701s have a nice forward midrange and gives distorted guitars a sharp edge, a bite. The only complaint with metal is that the entire treble range might be a little bit emphasized, but you might be able to get used to this.
 
Feb 14, 2011 at 7:28 PM Post #25 of 36
Damn the k701 is good, this is the first headphone that makes me catch myself singing allong with my favorite songs like ridiculously loud
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I don't know if its just me, but the first 15 minutes they don't sound fantastic, as if my ears need time to adjust to the headphones everytime. I gave up on burn in after 30 hours, I don't think these things wil sound better then they already sound.
 
Feb 14, 2011 at 7:58 PM Post #26 of 36
The K701 is superior to the K1000 in every department except for "crosstalk".  That was the my conclusion after the K1000 left my possession.  That "crosstalk" was such a big wow factor initially with the K1000s...but in due time, there was no escaping the fact that with my amplifiers (2X50 watt integrated, 2X5 watt tube integrated and 2X2 fleawatt SET) the K701 had a higher resolution from top to bottom.  In my opinion of course.
 
Feb 14, 2011 at 8:36 PM Post #27 of 36


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The K701 is superior to the K1000 in every department except for "crosstalk".  That was the my conclusion after the K1000 left my possession.  That "crosstalk" was such a big wow factor initially with the K1000s...but in due time, there was no escaping the fact that with my amplifiers (2X50 watt integrated, 2X5 watt tube integrated and 2X2 fleawatt SET) the K701 had a higher resolution from top to bottom.  In my opinion of course.



Agree about the higher resolution of the K-70X. The K-1000 roll off on the bass/sub and the treble as well...so, the mids stand out ( the voice sound spectrum), same as on the DT-48e.
 
Feb 15, 2011 at 1:56 PM Post #28 of 36
Just got the word, I'm picking them up Monday.  Now you two got me all excited.  PLUS the fact that Schiit says they designed the Valhalla for the K70x cans...  I'll be like a kid on christmas.
 
Feb 15, 2011 at 5:16 PM Post #29 of 36
Don't expect the K-701 to sound like the K-1000. I have the K-1000 and owned the K-701 for a couple of years. The K-701 is voiced differently from AKG's previous headphones. I find the K-1000 to be very natural and never got used to the artificial vocals in the K-701.

Personally, I would have traded down to the K-501. Its presentation is similar to the K-1000, but without the soundstage and not quite as much extension. At around $100-$150 used, the K-501 would be a terrific choice. You'd get most of the sound signature you're used to. Another good choice would have been the Sennheiser HD-600. A little more relaxed than a K-1000, but it has excellent balance and tonality. A HD-600 will work well with any genre of music, as well.
 

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