[blankdisc]

i have actually tried HD650 with Lyr before i sold it. Not impressed. I am not saying that HD650 is not good, or Lyr is not good. It's just not a good combo, or HD650 doesn't benefit that much from Lyr's power. If you are going to stick with HD650, then Schiit's other amps will probably be better.

 

[olor1n]

Why would I downgrade to their other amps when I already have the Lyr? Every component in my chain contributes to a presentation that I'm mostly happy with at this early stage. I'll eventually look to refine the sound and I suspect this may be achieved through finding tubes that not only has synergy with these cans, but also with the rest of my chain.

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

The stock tubes are quite... bad, to be honest. Changed to the Valhalla tubes and my mind instantly changed. I have zero desire to tube roll after these. I'm 100% satisfied with them, whereas I was somewhat 'meh' about the stock tubes.

 

[ocswing]

Higher up the food chain when you set up your whole rig you also have to think about synergy between components. If you're happy with the sound you're getting then that's awesome. He was just saying that he didn't think the synergy between the HD650 and the Lyr was very good. Even though the Valhalla or Asgard may cost less it's not really a downgrade if they have better synergy with the headphone in question. 
 
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Why would I downgrade to their other amps when I already have the Lyr? Every component in my chain contributes to a presentation that I'm mostly happy with at this early stage. I'll eventually look to refine the sound and I suspect this may be achieved through finding tubes that not only has synergy with these cans, but also with the rest of my chain.

 

 

[olor1n]

Sorry I wasn't blunt enough for you to understand what I was saying. My point was that blanket statements like the Lyr lacking synergy with the HD650 (or any headphone for that matter) isn't really that helpful, as all components in a chain (dac, amp, cables etc) combine to present what's heard. Personal preference aside, there are too many variables, and unless that person has the exact same gear, configured in the exact same way, such comments are redundant imo.

 

[shanep91]

Does anyone have any experience with low impedance dynamics (D5000/ W1000) or is that a bad match for the Lyr?
 
Thanks

 

[MrScary]

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i have actually tried HD650 with Lyr before i sold it. Not impressed. I am not saying that HD650 is not good, or Lyr is not good. It's just not a good combo, or HD650 doesn't benefit that much from Lyr's power. If you are going to stick with HD650, then Schiit's other amps will probably be better.

Are you basing this on the stock JJ tubes if so then the 650's only sound OK if you run some other tubes they sound fantastic

 

[MrScary]

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Sorry I wasn't blunt enough for you to understand what I was saying. My point was that blanket statements like the Lyr lacking synergy with the HD650 (or any headphone for that matter) isn't really that helpful, as all components in a chain (dac, amp, cables etc) combine to present what's heard. Personal preference aside, there are too many variables, and unless that person has the exact same gear, configured in the exact same way, such comments are redundant imo.

I second that to many people are so general your source,DAC amp tubes. cables all play into the sound

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

Does anyone have any experience with low impedance dynamics (D5000/ W1000) or is that a bad match for the Lyr?
 
Thanks

D7000. Not a good combo with the stock tubes. The Valhalla tubes make it worthwhile. Not that I advise using the Lyr with sensitive headphones. It possibly blew my right driver, as well as MacedonianHero's Ed.8. I'm not gonna even gonna try to see if the Lyr was the issue, so I'm sticking to the E9 for my D7000.

In any case, the Lyr hums with all easy to drive headphones that I have used. It's dead silent with my HE-4 however.

 

[jamato8]

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Does anyone have any experience with low impedance dynamics (D5000/ W1000) or is that a bad match for the Lyr?
 
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D7000. Not a good combo with the stock tubes. The Valhalla tubes make it worthwhile. Not that I advise using the Lyr with sensitive headphones. It possibly blew my right driver, as well as MacedonianHero's Ed.8. I'm not gonna even gonna try to see if the Lyr was the issue, so I'm sticking to the E9 for my D7000.

In any case, the Lyr hums with all easy to drive headphones that I have used. It's dead silent with my HE-4 however.

Wait, you are saying it blew the drivers? That would either be because there was too much current being pumped through them or there is DC on the output. So an Ed. 8 has blown drivers after using it with the Lyr?
 
 

 

[MrScary]

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Wait, you are saying it blew the drivers? That would either be because there was too much current being pumped through them or there is DC on the output. So an Ed. 8 has blown drivers after using it with the Lyr?
 
 

I have run my Futuresonic M8's with the Lyr and they are 32ohms I get no humm of any kind and it surely didnt blow the drivers sounds like someone has an itchy twitch to turn up the lyr to much
 

 

[shanep91]

Thanks for the reply, had a feeling that would be the case.
 
Asgard should be a good match

 

[ZorgDK]

I've been using my 32ohm Superlux HD681 with the Lyr. No issues, just a little overkill with 6W as those cans work just as good unamped.  

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

I have run my Futuresonic M8's with the Lyr and they are 32ohms I get no humm of any kind and it surely didnt blow the drivers sounds like someone has an itchy twitch to turn up the lyr to much
 

Actually, no. I've used quite a few headphones, in the very same ways as I used the D7000. The D7000's right driver started crackling and distorting one week after getting the Lyr. MH's ED.8 also had a driver mess up within a week of being used with his Lyr. I sincerely doubt it's a coincidence. I'm not stupid or abusive with my equipment. :rolleyes:

 

[jamato8]

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I have run my Futuresonic M8's with the Lyr and they are 32ohms I get no humm of any kind and it surely didnt blow the drivers sounds like someone has an itchy twitch to turn up the lyr to much
 

Actually, no. I've used quite a few headphones, in the very same ways as I used the D7000. The D7000's right driver started crackling and distorting one week after getting the Lyr. MH's ED.8 also had a driver mess up within a week of being used with his Lyr. I sincerely doubt it's a coincidence. I'm not stupid or abusive with my equipment.

Have you contacted Lyr about this? DC offset could ruin a driver.