Jul 10, 2016 at 3:53 PM Post #6,436 of 7,021
  Agree with Jmills. If you like the 2.5s you like bass from a live show.
 
http://www.bassboss.com/subs/zv28-powered-subwoofer
 
"Two ZV28s offer response extended to 21 Hz (+-3 dB, 1m, ground plane).  ZV28s were independently measured at Ultra Music Fest 2013 to achieve flat frequency response to 21Hz (-3 dB) at audience distance. A sub system of only sixteen ZV28 Subs and eight Z5/D Bass Horns s was used to create a legendary gig of extreme levels for close to 10,000 screaming fans. SPL meters showed levels of over 135 dB in the middle of the audience area."
 
I was there that year. This was the loudest system I have ever heard. Your insides shook, I could barely talk, the air was moving so much I couldnt light a bic lighter. 
 
The 2.5s are the closest IEM's to that level of bass.


Then you should have tested the ASG2.0, better bass for me than the 2.5, although you could not play with bassports.
Opening ports with 2.5 can certainly move a lot of air, but in a way that is bleeding into the lower mids when going above 1/4. Too much rumble, and decay becoming too slow.
 
And I wouldn't compare IEMs to a live audio system. Of course bigger speakers moving more air are needed when you want people to hear properly 100 meters away from the scene. For IEMs, distance is not the issue so size matters much less.
 
Don't misunderstand, I like my ASG2.5 but SQ isn't an absolute thing and I'm enjoying my Angies and HA-FX850 more the ASG right now.
 
Jul 10, 2016 at 8:33 PM Post #6,439 of 7,021
The 2.0 has bass ports.
 
Jul 10, 2016 at 10:23 PM Post #6,441 of 7,021
I own the 1.5, 2.5, 2.0 and there's no way the 2.5 bleeds more into the mids than the 2.0.

The 2.0 practically starts off with bloated mids whereas the 2.5 has a lot more tolerance compared to both the 2.0 and the 1.5.

Having the BA also helps but the 2.0 becomes woolly way before it hits it's peak in bass.
 
Jul 10, 2016 at 10:30 PM Post #6,442 of 7,021
I own the 1.5, 2.5, 2.0 and there's no way the 2.5 bleeds more into the mids than the 2.0.

The 2.0 practically starts off with bloated mids whereas the 2.5 has a lot more tolerance compared to both the 2.0 and the 1.5.

Having the BA also helps but the 2.0 becomes woolly way before it hits it's peak in bass.
Well if one enjoys the 2.0 better because they want it to be better or his or her music sounds better on the 2.0 then good and enjoy it. On some tracks the 2.0 sounded great but on many others it didnt. In my case the 2.5 sounded better on most of my music.
 
Jul 11, 2016 at 11:29 AM Post #6,443 of 7,021
I can't believe we're still going on about this
 
We've already concluded the original 2.0 is miles better than 2.5.
 
Jul 11, 2016 at 11:32 AM Post #6,444 of 7,021
I can't believe we're still going on about this

We've already concluded the original 2.0 is miles better than 2.5.
ha and the P5 is better than the 1plus2.
 
Jul 11, 2016 at 12:47 PM Post #6,446 of 7,021
My thought about 2.0 and 2.5 I like 2.5 a lot , but when paired with hm901 I think the treble should be  smoother and the mid should be more forward, after I read that the 2.0 are the 2.5 with those characteristics , I think the 2.0 should suit my taste more
 
Jul 11, 2016 at 1:11 PM Post #6,447 of 7,021
Well if one enjoys the 2.0 better because they want it to be better or his or her music sounds better on the 2.0 then good and enjoy it. On some tracks the 2.0 sounded great but on many others it didnt. In my case the 2.5 sounded better on most of my music.


Again, yes SQ is primarily about taste and music types.
2.5 are more tamed and would suite more types of music than 2.0, but definitely less exciting with metal/rock/progressive. Guitar and male vocals are a little bit too recessed for MY taste on the 2.5.
 
Jul 11, 2016 at 4:30 PM Post #6,448 of 7,021
I think at this level it's just a matter of taste. I love the 2.5 and I'm not even a bass head.they are just a fun headphone.for something a little more serious I use my laylas but for fun I think the 2.5 is great.with the port closed for me.
 

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