Obscure Chinese DAPs

[Mr Trev]

 
The volume dial looks like it's an analogue volume pot, and I've learned to hate analogue pots over the years since digital volume control is becoming more and more common.

 Why's that? Other than the low vol. imbalance - which with my gear is too low to be an issue - I find analogue to work pretty well

 

[HiFiChris]

 

 
The volume dial looks like it's an analogue volume pot, and I've learned to hate analogue pots over the years since digital volume control is becoming more and more common.

 Why's that? Other than the low vol. imbalance - which with my gear is too low to be an issue - I find analogue to work pretty well

 
I often like to listen at really low volume levels where imbalance does become an issue. And I like the feeling of knowing that there is no imbalance issue. Digital volume control and digitally controlled analogue volume control rule and have been the best development in the past 1.5 decades, found in much more devices than longer ago. And without the bit depth loss of course.
Nah, since there are sources with really good and super fine-grained digital volume control, I shudder when I think that I used to like analogue volume control. I just like the knowledge of having perfect channel balance at any level.

 

[thepooh]

Flang V5 32G Portable Loseless wireless control HiFi Music Player Black



Description
Multi-function remote control
Five key humanized design,Cooperate with exclusive base allows you to wireless control.
More humanized design
Inside and outside double card, built-in standard 32G, highest can be extended to 128G
Dual headphone socket
6.35 mm / 3.5 mm, high and low impedance headphones
Smart bookmarks
A key collection, easily customize personal album
Shuttle dial
ALPS encoder, the menu/selections as convenient
Gain attenuation
-dB,Balance the high sensitive headphones
Bass boost
Super Bass, fully meet the personality listening
Mechanical volume control
Aluminum alloy carved, abandon the digital electrical modulation distortion
Dual-mode charging
MIC/DOC, can charge the battery DOCKING
Long life
Original lithium-ion batteries, the longest up to 20 hours
Independent "CD" machine
The Line out (Line output) with the remote control let you used to be more convenient than traditional
CD
Independent digital turntable
Spdif Out (coaxial output), can be directly connected to external DAC
Linux operating system born to fever acoustics ost
CPU processor: 600 MHZ/dual-core/MIPS, speed up to 1 million times per second
Operating system:
Perfect support 24 bit192khz sampling, mother with the level of music again.

The emperor of the machine with a DAC decoding - ESS9018
Its biggest characteristic is unparalleled resolving power
It shows sound and density makes music full of spirituality

The naturalness of sound
Smooth tone
The simple sense of Musical Instruments
The background of wide depth




Parameter
ESS9018 decoding
Support 24bit192khz
Support the DSD direct input code flow
Dynamic range DSR: 127dB
THD signal-to-noise ratio: 115dB
FormatSD/APE/FLAC/ALAC/WMA/WAV/MP3
Output power: 125 mw
Frequency response: 20 hz - 20 KHZ
Distortion: 0.0035% (1 KHZ)
Signal to noise ratio: 95 db or higher
Channel separating degree: 79 db (1 KHZ)
Display: OLED
Battery capacity: 2000 mah
Battery life: greater than or equal to 12 hours
Size:120*72*25(mm)
Weight: about 249g





Package
Flang V5*1
64G Flash Card*1
23242125262728

 

[Wyrdrune]

Flang V5 32G Portable Loseless wireless control HiFi Music Player Black



Description
Multi-function remote control
Five key humanized design,Cooperate with exclusive base allows you to wireless control.
More humanized design
Inside and outside double card, built-in standard 32G, highest can be extended to 128G
Dual headphone socket
6.35 mm / 3.5 mm, high and low impedance headphones
Smart bookmarks
A key collection, easily customize personal album
Shuttle dial
ALPS encoder, the menu/selections as convenient
Gain attenuation
-dB,Balance the high sensitive headphones
Bass boost
Super Bass, fully meet the personality listening
Mechanical volume control
Aluminum alloy carved, abandon the digital electrical modulation distortion
Dual-mode charging
MIC/DOC, can charge the battery DOCKING
Long life
Original lithium-ion batteries, the longest up to 20 hours
Independent "CD" machine
The Line out (Line output) with the remote control let you used to be more convenient than traditional
CD
Independent digital turntable
Spdif Out (coaxial output), can be directly connected to external DAC
Linux operating system born to fever acoustics ost
CPU processor: 600 MHZ/dual-core/MIPS, speed up to 1 million times per second
Operating system:
Perfect support 24 bit192khz sampling, mother with the level of music again.

The emperor of the machine with a DAC decoding - ESS9018
Its biggest characteristic is unparalleled resolving power
It shows sound and density makes music full of spirituality

The naturalness of sound
Smooth tone
The simple sense of Musical Instruments
The background of wide depth




Parameter
ESS9018 decoding
Support 24bit192khz
Support the DSD direct input code flow
Dynamic range DSR: 127dB
THD signal-to-noise ratio: 115dB
FormatSD/APE/FLAC/ALAC/WMA/WAV/MP3
Output power: 125 mw
Frequency response: 20 hz - 20 KHZ
Distortion: 0.0035% (1 KHZ)
Signal to noise ratio: 95 db or higher
Channel separating degree: 79 db (1 KHZ)
Display: OLED
Battery capacity: 2000 mah
Battery life: greater than or equal to 12 hours
Size:120*72*25(mm)
Weight: about 249g





Package
Flang V5*1
64G Flash Card*1
23242125262728

Ooh. Now that looks like a very nice piece of kit. Good specs, DSD playback, and an attractive design (if you like the serious, industrial, look).

I shall be interested to see if anyone posts impressions of it.

 

[thepooh]

Ooh. Now that looks like a very nice piece of kit. Good specs, DSD playback, and an attractive design (if you like the serious, industrial, look).

I shall be interested to see if anyone posts impressions of it.

What really catched my eyes :

a. ESS 9018
b. Docking station with double xlr
c. 6.3 plus 3.5mm connectors
d. The whole package for $300, I'm sold

Thanks to Pinoyman for showing me this

 

[IRBIT]

Chinese review
 
 
 
 
 
http://www.erji.net/read.php?fpage=12&page=e&tid=1843691

 

[Sound Eq]

  Chinese review
 
 
 
 
 
http://www.erji.net/read.php?fpage=12&page=e&tid=1843691

can u give an idea what the impression is from the chinese site

 

[Wyrdrune]

can u give an idea what the impression is from the chinese site

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://www.erji.net/read.php%3Ffpage%3D12%26page%3De%26tid%3D1843691&usg=ALkJrhgheYRyT6Vx6XNfBY35LWDhgVm5Fg

In short, it sounds good, but has flaws.

 

[NymPHONOmaniac]

Ha ha, please do.

Yeah I agree. There are some good sounding ones as far as I understand (I'm quite impressed by the sound on the $20 Idealist S1813 myself) but the real challenge seem to be to get good enough UI and stability fw wise.

 What? A 20$ player with more than decent sound????
I'm hooked!
Can someone describe me the sound or give me a link that review it please?
I'm waiting for the Ruizu X02 just for fun...wonder how they compare too.
 
I'm happy to find this thread, was going to start one to have more impressions about unknown chinese DAP!

 

[peter123]

 What? A 20$ player with more than decent sound????
I'm hooked!
Can someone describe me the sound or give me a link that review it please?
I'm waiting for the Ruizu X02 just for fun...wonder how they compare too.

I'm happy to find this thread, was going to start one to have more impressions about unknown chinese DAP!

I had the Ruizu x02 when I got the Idealist s1813 (the x02 died shortly after) and the Idealist has a much better sound IMO. the x02 had a noticeable bass roll off. I think there's some unit/batch variations on it though. The biggest asset on the x02 was definitely the great battery life, I used it when travelling and that was great. The Idealist has better bass and treble extension, better clarity ana nice lean and clean sound. Unfortunately it uses the same lousy UI as the x02.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Idealist-S1813-metal-MP3-Walkman-MP4-lossless-music-player-card-running-I-Walkman-have-a-fever/1966218_32647121539.html

 

[NymPHONOmaniac]

Thanks for the reply.
Look very interesting! Kind of regret to have buy the Ruizu as I'm more about sound than battery life.
Is it better than Sansa clip and Sony media player?
 
Wonder if anybody hear the ONN X5 too and how it compare.
For now the real most have sub 50$ player look like to be the Xduoo X2.
I got the X3 3 days ago and really like him for easy to drive earphones.

 

[Mython]

iBasso doesn't really count as 'obscure', but I think this interesting DAP still deserves a brief mention, here:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/806333/mini-audio-ma01-spec-photos-dx100-successor
 
 
EDIT - turns out it's NOT an iBasso product at all! (confirmed by Paul from iBasso)
 
 
So, at this stage, it isn't clear who makes the Mini-Audio MA10 - i guess that makes it an 'Obscure' Chinese DAP, after all!

 
 
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[peter123]

  Thanks for the reply.
Look very interesting! Kind of regret to have buy the Ruizu as I'm more about sound than battery life.
Is it better than Sansa clip and Sony media player?
 
Wonder if anybody hear the ONN X5 too and how it compare.
For now the real most have sub 50$ player look like to be the Xduoo X2.
I got the X3 3 days ago and really like him for easy to drive earphones.

I've never really liked the sound of the Clip so for me it's definately better. Never heard any Sony media player, sorry.

 

[miriddin]

I had the Ruizu x02 when I got the Idealist s1813 (the x02 died shortly after) and the Idealist has a much better sound IMO...

 
May i ask you if the idealist has FLAC support?
 
From the description i read only about MP3, WMA and WAV support.
 
Thanks!

 

[peter123]

May i ask you if the idealist has FLAC support?

From the description i read only about MP3, WMA and WAV support.

Thanks!

Yes, it supports flac.