rhythmdevils
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Yeah! Now we're talkin! Flames!
No, the peaky treble does not change with burn in. I believe in burn in, but it isn't going to fundamentally change the FR. It's not a fix all.
Interesting; I really love the sound of the 1350, the only thing I wish for was a bigger soundstage. I have to adjust to its size every time I listen to it. It's in my at-home set right now, and I was hoping the 880s (250 ohm, I only have a pico amp) would be equivalent in resolution. I could take airy/harsh treble if the details come through as clearly. Any thoughts?
Speaking of burn-in ...
I almost never hear about burn-in from the manuf's side -- and that goes for most gear that users claim benefit from the phenomenon -- not just head-gear. E.g., no word about it on their corporate web site, datasheets, or other product lit. I wonder how much burn-in testing goes into the initial product development? AKGs change importantly and WAY for the better, IMO. But it's probably risky to market it that way, I 'spose. It would be kind of tricky marketing to say ... "buy our 'phones, and wait 100+hrs before serious listening!" The skeptical consumer might think: "yeah, right! I'll get psycho burned in by then anyway!"... or, "does your warranty take that into account?"
A few pro audio companies have documented effects of "burn-in", i.e. actually the effects of use over time, for speaker drivers. They would consider "burn-in" effects a bad thing - that once a product differs so much from how it was originally, it becomes "out of spec," or in other words, crappier, not better.
I am pretty sure that Audeze burns-in their LCD3s for a few days as part of their QC process. I wouldn't be surprised if other manufacturers also do this.
A few pro audio companies have documented effects of "burn-in", i.e. actually the effects of use over time, for speaker drivers. They would consider "burn-in" effects a bad thing - that once a product differs so much from how it was originally, it becomes "out of spec," or in other words, crappier, not better.
I am pretty sure that Audeze burns-in their LCD3s for a few days as part of their QC process. I wouldn't be surprised if other manufacturers also do this.
"Pro" audio companies? E.g. Fostex, Audio-Technica, Crown, Marshall? Did you mean, perhaps, "high-end audiophile" companies instead?
The DT-1350 is a headphone that I bought, liked, started getting iffy on, sold, and re-bought. Well today I put in a pre-order for the Amperior. My instincts are telling me not to jump ship quite yet though, Tyll mentioned he actually like the Amperior more than the DT-1350. Hope they ship soon, I would rather have one portable closed headphone than two in the stable.
I just bought the DT1350! Cannot wait to hear it! But I'm so intrigued by the Amperior too. (Where did you preorder the Amperior from? How much for?) I was not a huge fan of the HD25, mostly because I was trying to wear it for too long. It was pretty aggressive though. (I realize now that closed on ear shouldn't really be expected to be that comfortable for hours.) I think for mostly classical the DT1350 should beat the Amperior, but I'm a suck for a good comparison review.