+1 to this Too many people claiming headphones are detailed, when in reality they can't tell that the treble is boosted. I also see a lot of people who think that the less bass a headphone has, the more detailed and "reference" it is. I guess suckers will always exist, more money for headphone makers. There are a few reviewers who have the ability to slice through the herd mentality and come to conclusions on their own. What I have learned from this hobby is that it is a damn talent if a headphone manufacturer can develop headphones with a healthy amount of bass and still be extremely detailed.