Matrix M-Stage amp review: simple, cheap, and excellent.
May 3, 2012 at 12:42 AM Post #2,851 of 5,176
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Didn't find anything here?

 
Ah, why didn't I think of that one!? 
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But seriously, thanks.
 
For anyone else who was wondering, and too lazy to look through the search function, there were many positive comments in regards to the M-stage and D2000s. In fact, I don't think I even saw one negative criticism, really.
 
I guess I'll be springing for one of these very soon.  
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May 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM Post #2,852 of 5,176
strange.
the longest time i left my m stage on was for 36hours and it never gets hot.
it does get warm though. like between luke warm and cozy warm. btw i have the vented version of m stage with no usb dac and stock op amp. 120v.
 
May 3, 2012 at 1:19 PM Post #2,853 of 5,176
My unvented M-Stage got almost burning hot on a couple of occasions.  These days, it just gets cozy warm for me, too, and no more.
I stick with opamps that don't oscillate lately.
 
May 3, 2012 at 3:30 PM Post #2,854 of 5,176
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strange.
the longest time i left my m stage on was for 36hours and it never gets hot.
it does get warm though. like between luke warm and cozy warm. btw i have the vented version of m stage with no usb dac and stock op amp. 120v.

I wonder if it possible to get a hold of the venting casting. Because mine is the v2 ver. Tho i could always tape 4 120mm case fans on it and use a long 4 pin psu extension running from my comp.
 
May 3, 2012 at 3:58 PM Post #2,855 of 5,176
You could always drill some big holes in it....
 
 
May 3, 2012 at 8:37 PM Post #2,856 of 5,176
Yea true, but i not handy with power tools. I more likey to make a wreck of it.
 
May 3, 2012 at 11:42 PM Post #2,857 of 5,176
Well, be artistic at wrecking it! 
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May 4, 2012 at 7:05 AM Post #2,858 of 5,176
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Thanks for the excellent review. I've looked at the internals and it is a fairly standard circuit layout. Very similar to
http://electronics-diy.com/electronic_schematic.php?id=346
 
However I have one issue with this headphone amplifier that I wonder if anybody else has experienced. I have it plugged in to the tape monitor output on my Cary Audio SLP98 preamp. When the Matrix is powered off, the sound on my preamp degrades considerably and I find I have to unplug the preamp.
 
Do others find this to be the case?
 
I've looked into the internals and see that it uses a relay to switch between inputs. I will try next to connect to the normally unconnected input when powered down and will report back on the results.
 
Regards,
 
 
Jerry

 
Yes, I have found this to be a problem,
Have you tried flipping the input slector in the Matrix to the unused iinput?
This works for me but I have an older Matrix (8 months old!
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) which does not have a USB input so YMMV!    LOL!
 
CJ
 
May 5, 2012 at 12:19 AM Post #2,861 of 5,176
anyone recommend a chip ?.................here's the info to help you help me:
 
I don't particularly prefer the class A mode dual chip sound. I find it a touch too 'rich' in an unatural way. So am currently using and preferring the stock single chip. But, while I like just about everything to the sound, there is a touch of 'sponge' to the mids and lows that i'd like to dial out hopefully with a slightly less compressed sounding chip. To my ears classA was even more compressed, so the single chip helped me go in the right direction, now I am just hoping for a different single chip that will take me the rest of the way to a more lean and dry, less 'affected' sound.
 
also, where are you guys getting your optional chips at?
 
thanks in advance.
 
May 5, 2012 at 7:14 AM Post #2,862 of 5,176
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anyone recommend a chip ?.................here's the info to help you help me:
 
I don't particularly prefer the class A mode dual chip sound. I find it a touch too 'rich' in an unatural way. So am currently using and preferring the stock single chip. But, while I like just about everything to the sound, there is a touch of 'sponge' to the mids and lows that i'd like to dial out hopefully with a slightly less compressed sounding chip. To my ears classA was even more compressed, so the single chip helped me go in the right direction, now I am just hoping for a different single chip that will take me the rest of the way to a more lean and dry, less 'affected' sound.
 
also, where are you guys getting your optional chips at?
 
thanks in advance.

 
After trying a few Op Amps, I find I am a big fan of the LM4562NA which is a dual Op Amp. 
I think you can get one from Tam Audio, I got mine from National Semiconductor.
This is a very clean Op Amp without the fake richness and spongi-ness, without the compression and other nastiness.
 
I like the LM4562NA because it is a good clear sounding Op Amp, no colouration, low distortion.
 
May 5, 2012 at 10:14 AM Post #2,863 of 5,176
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I wonder if it possible to get a hold of the venting casting. Because mine is the v2 ver. Tho i could always tape 4 120mm case fans on it and use a long 4 pin psu extension running from my comp.

 
Not sure on the case, but I was able to order a face plate from this ebay seller 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140587163079&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123#ht_2982wt_648
 
I ordered silver but changed my room around and decided I wanted black.
Cost $20usd inc shipping to Australia so if they can supply i'd guess the housing would be similar. 
 
May 5, 2012 at 12:42 PM Post #2,864 of 5,176
thanks chris. I will try it. I suspect it's the dac that is what I like about this unit, more than the amp, so if this chip goes in the direction of making the amp section less conspicuous, it may be a good one for me. The overall unit itself has great qualities; resolution, soundstage etc but they are they are most apparent when using the dac. When plugging straight into the front (amp only) I frankly could take it or leave it.
 
 
chip sources:
http://octopart.com/lm4562na%2Fnopb-national+semiconductor-664061#compare_suppliers
http://www.newark.com/national-semiconductor/lm4562na-nopb/ic-audio-op-amp-55mhz-dip-8/dp/32M1177
 

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