Low end. Cheap. Generic. Otherwise bang for buck cable thread!

[subwoof3r]

Thanks but I am really confused on which is which. Are you sure you didn't invert the two at the beginning?
because this doesn't make any sense to me:

• 8 Cores Pure Silver Cable (that I will call the « 7N »)
• 7N Single Crystal Copper OCC Silver Plated Cable (that I will call the « 8 cores »)

Oops, little mistake yeah, fixed!

 

[Palash]

Friends my review on BGVP DM6 with ISN Audio S8 - https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/bgvp-dm6.23290/reviews#review-21737.
ISN Audio S8 is very good for its price.

 

[tonehk]

Can anybody recommend a good quality cable for the UE custom connector (2 pin, not IPX)? thanks

 

[CoiL]

I asked Ken Ball at Can jam last year about his Andromeda S burn in. He told me burn in is needed more for the cable than the earphones. Which was odd but it seems higher end cables are recommended for burn in. I don't feel sound changes drastically with cable burn in. Might be slight at best but what I experienced with the C16 is that when I first heard it. It was warm thick sounding using my HQ12 out of the box. It don't sound as warm now with increased resolution/ detail in the treble region. And this is on an earphone that has been used for easily over 300 hours prior to using the C16 cable.

If you read the higher end cable thread. It is regularly accepted as more or less the norm. Effect audio thread I would check out. You will see what I mean. The cable manufacturers recommend it as well.

I have a friend that made a pure silver cable for me and the guy is an Electrical Engineer by trade. Makes his own silver cables. He told me to have my silver cable burn in for 200 hours. Guy works for Space X and regularly modifies and makes his own gears. I definitely trust his statement on that. At least for pure silver.

Again I don't claim it is true or false but I do accept the fact that my earphones changed for the better over time using the same cable on the same earphones.

This is the thing I haven`t experienced yet (cable burn-in) and till the day I do, I personally don`t belive in it.
If You explain me physics of cable material burn-in, then will "look" into it but until then I just belive only in cable impedance/resistance differences and resulting sound differences.

Still waiting for physics explanation to this "cable burn-in"... link to any proof about different metals "burn-in" with audio signal use?
Would like to educate myself

 

[fokta]

What I exp is the SLitz SE that come with the stock is also changing when u Break in longer.
Felt the bass is tighter... IMO, I was suggest by a senior local. but not in that long run burn in....
Now been using it more then my Abnormal

but I do fell the adapter 4.4mm to 2.5mm make coloring in sound... I was exp when try my Abnormal 4.4 direct to ZX300... the change is treble spark a bit exist...

 

[hakuzen]

added isn audio S16 (cable 151) to my list.
everything like C16 (cable 150), but silver plated copper instead of copper. will try some A/B between them..

 

[hakuzen]

doing A/B using FLC8s this time (rest of gear is the same than last time), between cables 125 (thick copper 4 cores), 150 (isn audio C16 copper), and and 151 (isn audio S16 silver plated copper)..

both C16 and S16 use same plugs, same wire structure, have same conductivity. the only difference is conductor material. and the sound difference between C16 and S16 is clearly noticeable!
C16 sounds considerably warmer, thicker. sub-bass rumble is bigger. with S16, bass is tighter, thinner, and you distinguish upper-mids and treble detail better than with C16. i'm sure i could distinguish these almost 100% in an ABX test.
cable 125 is in the middle of C16 and S16.

after this A/B, i consider C16 excessively warm. i much prefer cable 125 (as before), but also S16. S16 is a breeze for too warm iems. i'd recommend S16 before C16 without a doubt. but you know i like thin analytical sound..

 

[jant71]

I actually have the S16 in my Penon cart. Based on the description it would seem just the thing for my Finschi. Not that it is too warm but might want to prod the treble more and balance out the signature.

C16 sounds like the thing for something like the FiiO FA1 to work the bass a bit more. Esp. for the outdoor use and commute as some argue the FA1 has enough but they are sitting at home and testing them. Does the C16 still show good detail and resolution or is it covered up by the warmth??

 

[hakuzen]

I actually have the S16 in my Penon cart. Based on the description it would seem just the thing for my Finschi. Not that it is too warm but might want to prod the treble more and balance out the signature.

C16 sounds like the thing for something like the FiiO FA1 to work the bass a bit more. Esp. for the outdoor use and commute as some argue the FA1 has enough but they are sitting at home and testing them. Does the C16 still show good detail and resolution or is it covered up by the warmth??

after all this a/b, i agree with @Dsnuts impressions of C16.
i'd say it looses detail and resolution covered up by the warmth, but it happens when comparing to S16 and cable 125. i should do some a/b with cheaper thinner copper cables, but iirc you get better resolution with C16 than with cable 053 (brown, copper) for example.
i wouldn't recommend C16 now

edit: to get bolder bass without loosing highs resolution, cable 125 is a better choice, but costs near 50% more when at sales

 

[hakuzen]

about S16, after finishing a/b, i've kept it on my ears with flc8s (which isn't a warm iem)..
i don't own the Finschi, but i think your guess is spot on: S16 could contribute to lean them towards treble. the difference i've noticed is very clear to ensure its effect

 

[hakuzen]

btw, the mmcx <-> 2pins adapters sold by penon are shorter than those sold at lunashops. 1 or 2mm shorter. similar conductivity. the 0.78mm pins are slightly thinner than lunashops'
when bought together with cable, they cost $20 (cheaper than lunashops')

 

[kingdixon]

about S16, after finishing a/b, i've kept it on my ears with flc8s (which isn't a warm iem)..
i don't own the Finschi, but i think your guess is spot on: S16 could contribute to lean them towards treble. the difference i've noticed is very clear to ensure its effect

Must feel weird with flc8s attached to this snake, the iem weights nothing compared to the cable

I like S16 it is a very nice cable, dont know if i will ever grab a C16 or not.

 

[hakuzen]

Must feel weird with flc8s attached to this snake, the iem weights nothing compared to the cable

I like S16 it is a very nice cable, dont know if i will ever grab a C16 or not.

haha, yea, i've seen it in a mirror.. ridiculous.. but i'm alone at home, and don't have issues with its weight.

don't grab C16. when using high resolving iem you can notice its weaknesses.. for those iem better spend on a better and lighter cable; for cheap iem better spend on a cheaper and lighter cable

 

[battosai]

What about the H16?

 

[superuser1]

There should be a C8 version which they dont have yet.