Low end. Cheap. Generic. Otherwise bang for buck cable thread!
Jul 19, 2019 at 10:21 PM Post #2,057 of 9,186
Yeah, I think it’s wise not to make any permanent changes that could hurt resale, until you’re 100% sure you like them and will keep them.

Also, if you do decide to keep them and want to do the mod, it really does need some careful attention to detail. It may be best to ask a friend for help, like if you know anyone who works with small projects such as electronics or even woodworking (because many of the same skills will be useful for the mod).

Being just 0.5mm off when shaving down the plug can make the difference between them not fitting at all, fitting perfectly, or fitting really loose. And not to mention you have to make sure to keep all edges perfectly straight and square (in the X, Y, and Z axis) when trimming the stock socket.
Yeah, thanks! I don't personally know anyone with those skills and I'm just at the point now, where I think I'll just use them with the stock single-ended cable they shipped with. Unless something happens where they completely blow me away within the next couple of weeks, I'm prolly gonna sell this set. The other iems I currently own just sound so much more to my liking, and both have easier upgrade options for cables. I didn't think this thing thru enough I guess, when I bought them. The raised connector type on the No.3 and KZ ZS10 PRO I thought were the same, since I had never seen this type of connector before. I had no idea that both these types of connectors were some kind of proprietary thing. That's a big no no for me, because it now excludes me from getting upgrade cables. I'm thinking it might be time to look elsewhere for a 3rd set.
 
Jul 20, 2019 at 1:02 AM Post #2,059 of 9,186

Got my custom 4 core Electro Acousti 26AWG silver Litz in, and man, is it ever nice. I'll put a heatshrink slider on it in a bit, but for now, it's practically perfect- nice and light and transparent.
pretty!!
very interested of comparison with your other up-occ wires, please, because i've not tried that 26awg silver litz wire (take your time, not in a hurry).
 
Jul 20, 2019 at 8:37 PM Post #2,060 of 9,186
Nice! Any links to purchase thi cable?


Got my custom 4 core Electro Acousti 26AWG silver Litz in, and man, is it ever nice. I'll put a heatshrink slider on it in a bit, but for now, it's practically perfect- nice and light and transparent.
 
Jul 20, 2019 at 9:14 PM Post #2,061 of 9,186
how is the jack? is it nicely build?
It's super small, not much to it. It seems built well enough, though not as big or chunky as some nor as clean as the ALO on the Gu.Craftsman.

pretty!!
very interested of comparison with your other up-occ wires, please, because i've not tried that 26awg silver litz wire (take your time, not in a hurry).
Will do! Monday it is!

Nice! Any links to purchase thi cable?
I ordered it custom from the Electro Acousti store. If you send a message first the builder will give instructions. He lets you select the parts you want from his store.
 
Jul 20, 2019 at 11:57 PM Post #2,062 of 9,186
a nice guide of professional reviews of DMMs:
https://lygte-info.dk/info/DMMReviews.html

for resistance measurements (mΩ), i use Vapcell YR1030 (https://lygte-info.dk/review/InternalResistanceMeterYR1030 UK.html , around $34), because of its resolution (~1mΩ) and because it uses 4 terminal leads (alligator clamps or probes, like showed at https://lygte-info.dk/review/InternalResistanceMeterYR1035 UK.html ); this is very comfortable: you don't have to subtract leads resistance, and measurements are more stable.
i use UNI-T UT61E for voltage (mV) measuring.

anyway, you can use a cheaper dmm as well. here is an example using a $22 DMM (ZOYI ZT109, 2 decimal points at Ω, 10mΩ resolution), with very low resistance clamp leads (they didn't come with the dmm). you have to wait until reading is stable.

1. calibration: ~10mΩ (0.01Ω) leads resistance


2. measurement of $20 cable, 2.5mm balanced, left+ signal:


0.11Ω - 0.01Ω (leads resistance) = 0.10Ω (100mΩ).
absolute error of this measurement: ~15mΩ

edit: corrected prices of gear..
I was digging around looking for precision multimeters for resistance measurements, and the ones to look for are the "Internal Resistance Meters" based on your post. Is $40 a good price for range of 0-200m ohms? I have no idea how the resolution is (doesn't give me an error/tolerance spec), but here is the specs

Battery Voltage : 0~1.999/ 2.00~19.99/ 20.0~50.0V
Resistance/ Battery Internal Resistance: 0~199m/ 200m~1999m/ 2.00~19.99Ω
Negative Polarity Indication: “-”shown on the display automatically
Operating environment: temperature: 0℃~+40℃
Relative humidity :<80%
Temperature Coefficient: 0.1×(specified accuracy)/℃(<18℃ or >28℃)
Battery: 9V battery, 6F22 or equivalent (1 piece)
Size : 150x83x44mm
Weight : 315g
 
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Jul 21, 2019 at 12:07 AM Post #2,063 of 9,186
I was digging around looking for precision multimeters for resistance measurements, and the ones to look for are the "Internal Resistance Meters" based on your post. Is $40 a good price for range of 0-200m ohms? I have no idea how the resolution is (doesn't give me an error/tolerance spec), but here is the specs

Battery Voltage : 0~1.999/ 2.00~19.99/ 20.0~50.0V
Resistance/ Battery Internal Resistance: 0~199m/ 200m~1999m/ 2.00~19.99Ω
Negative Polarity Indication: “-”shown on the display automatically
Operating environment: temperature: 0℃~+40℃
Relative humidity :<80%
Temperature Coefficient: 0.1×(specified accuracy)/℃(<18℃ or >28℃)
Battery: 9V battery, 6F22 or equivalent (1 piece)
Size : 150x83x44mm
Weight : 315g
is that m in mohm big or small ?
 
Jul 21, 2019 at 12:14 AM Post #2,065 of 9,186
small m stands for milli. So, 199m is 0.199
i know

maybe look for this on i already worked whit it

VOLTCRAFT VC175

0.001 till 40M ohm resolution is 0.001

should be 40 dollars but i dont know if you get these outside off germany

the best multimeters overall are from a company called fluke but they start at 300 dollars for thier basic model up to dont now i got a 20000dollar one at work
 
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Jul 21, 2019 at 12:16 AM Post #2,066 of 9,186
i know

maybe look for this on i already worked whit it

VOLTCRAFT VC175

0.001 till 40M ohm resolution is 0.001

should be 40 dollars but i dont know if you get these outside off germany

the best multimeters overall are from a company called fluke but they start at 300 dollars for thier basic model up to dont now i got a 20000dollar one at work
I found one on US Amazon! Very nice resolution for $35, thanks!
 
Jul 21, 2019 at 12:18 AM Post #2,067 of 9,186
Jul 21, 2019 at 12:19 AM Post #2,068 of 9,186
i know

maybe look for this on i already worked whit it

VOLTCRAFT VC175

0.001 till 40M ohm resolution is 0.001

should be 40 dollars but i dont know if you get these outside off germany

the best multimeters overall are from a company called fluke but they start at 300 dollars for thier basic model up to dont now i got a 20000dollar one at work
Actually, the resolution is .1 ohm +-1.6% of 400 ohm
https://produktinfo.conrad.com/date...-01-en-VOLTCRAFT_VC175_DIGITAL_MULTIMETER.pdf
 
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Jul 21, 2019 at 12:34 AM Post #2,070 of 9,186
Actually, the resolution is .1 ohm =-1.6%
https://produktinfo.conrad.com/date...-01-en-VOLTCRAFT_VC175_DIGITAL_MULTIMETER.pdf

Where did you get .001? I guess if it's +-1.6%, then that means it has ambiguity up to .0016 ohms (for every .1 ohm), so my guess is you can get reading on the display up to 2 decimal places beyond the decimal point .00 ? So, the last significant digit is off by approx 1.6%
i know it just from personal experience i never read the technical details but this one showed me precise the natural resistance off 1meter pure copper whit a cross section of 1mm at 30 degre celsius at 0.175 - 0.180 so it was safe use for me
 

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