@Broquen and me purchased the
copper and silver plated copper (mixed into each core) version. neotech (taiwan) 7N frozen up-occ litz. this is cable
169.
yours is
full silver plated copper version, with two different sleeves: transparent and grey; it's also neotech (taiwan) 7N frozen up-occ litz. this will be number
166 in my list (not yet).
cables
165, and
171/172 are
full copper versions. they are also neotech (taiwan) frozen up-occ wires, and 171/172 are litz as well. but 165 isn't litz, and 170 (no-litz version of 171) isn't either.
for the record:
true cryo up-occ litz cables in my list:
- 171/172 (4/8 cores) is copper. 2pins/mmcx terminations available.
- 169 is copper and silver plated copper mixed (into each of its 4 cores). mmcx available (you can use an adapter to use it in 2pins iems).
- 166 is silver plated copper. 4 cores, mmcx available (you can use an adapter to use it in 2pins iems). not in my list yet.
i noticed the mids and highs were more upfront located with 169 (silver plated and copper mix) than with 171 (copper). so the sensation is brighter, because mids and highs are felt closer.
in theory, yours, silver plated, should help to feel mids and highs closer than copper wires. isn s8 (i tried isn s16), silver plated cable, also do that, and probably in higher degree.
the difference between isn c16 and s16 is huge; c16 gives a warm tilt, big bass rumble, while s16 bass is much tighter, punchier, and mids and highs details are better noticed.
the difference between neotech frozen up-occ wires (from copper to silver plated copper) is not so big.
hearing your impressions, it's refreshing to know that pure silver plated copper version of up-occ also keeps tight, punchy, and detailed bass, like copper version does.
guess up-occ + litz combo, which provide blacker background and deeper stage, contribute to perceive punchier low frequencies, besides of better imaging and separation.
glad to know you also notice bigger sound stage and space, and better timbre. i perceived it immediately and clearly while doing AB, so affirmed it without a doubt. this up-occ wires help to get the cleanest sound your source+phones combo are able to deliver.
this is curious.. i started this cable journey as a non-believer (like wasn't believing in burn-in). time and self-experience have changed my mind about both matters.
the most affected by burn-in might be the sources.
but also noticed changes in phones; some needed a few hours, some a few minutes, some didn't change at all (i can't distinguish changes after passing some hours, but think there are people who are able to do it). so i always give a reasonable time to iems (if i don't like them after a few hours, i know i'll never like them).
with cables, thought i wouldn't notice any change. but did with some of them. i give them around an hour margin, since then.
so i feel identified while reading your experience, although haven't followed a cable which such detail for long (too many cables to try, lol). i much appreciate your impressions, thank you!
you'll never hear me to doubt about others sound perceptions. i remain skeptical (for the sake of prudence), but always open minded (for the sake of prudence, as well). everything is possible in this already unknown world, the more we know, the bigger is the unknown (u know nothin', Jon Snow..).
i might start to measure capacitance of all my cables (and to add the measurements to my list).
about cables, can't stop recommending up-occ wires. even better if litz shielded, cables 171/172 and 169 in my list. almost every people who have tried them, appreciate the difference. just focus the stage, space, and cleanliness.
