Just listened to some Fostex T50RPs today... WOW!
Mar 28, 2012 at 12:27 AM Post #7,261 of 11,345
This thread has been indexed by Ludoo, from Pianist's original post until February 16 of this year, and can be searched. This link includes every posting by WJE where he mentioned the word "cable."  It didn't find any pictures though, so I assume WJE posted those between February 16 and today. I hope that helps.
 
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And on that note, @WJE, Ive been searching all day for the pictures of your double sided entry mod and I have been unsuccessful. I cannot for the life of me find out how you got around the problem of the 2 mini cable holes and the one 3.5mm jack. I dont really care about the 2 mini holes because I can easily get some nice thin guage wire and pass it through, or even get some fat wire and drill that hole. However, I really want that 3.5mm jack dependency gone and I dont have the faintest idea how to go about sealing that hole without it looking stupid or causing a channel imbalance.


 
 
 
Mar 28, 2012 at 4:06 AM Post #7,262 of 11,345
I got the newplast and filled up the baffle completely as seen in picture, however I haven't put those little tiny holes in yet, how do they change the sound with the holes compared to without? And would the tip of a pen work for pushing the holes into the newplast?
 
Mar 28, 2012 at 4:24 AM Post #7,263 of 11,345
I tried doing it to my right side, and left the left side with only plasticine around the driver. I only did this a few hours ago and I can detect any changes in sound at all yet, let alone a massive change.
I just rolled the plasticine up into little balls, put them in the hole, and then pushed down and spread it over the hole with my finger.
 
Mar 28, 2012 at 4:46 AM Post #7,265 of 11,345


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I tried doing it to my right side, and left the left side with only plasticine around the driver. I only did this a few hours ago and I can detect any changes in sound at all yet, let alone a massive change.
I just rolled the plasticine up into little balls, put them in the hole, and then pushed down and spread it over the hole with my finger.



You can't compare mods between left and right ear.  The brain doesn't work that way.  It has to be both sides the same.  that being said, the dimples in plasticine probably don't do much. 
 
Mar 28, 2012 at 5:27 AM Post #7,266 of 11,345


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Hey Shrimants, can you tell me what are mksuen's mods are?
Edit: One more thing has anyone figured out how to get more treble detail?



The elusive treble detail! This question has been asked before and no really good answers have been supplied. While there are plenty of reported mods to increase bass - and these headphones sound great for most genres other than classical where treble detail is utmost importance - there are few reported mods to increase treble detail. 
 
My best so far are two layers of transpore on top of the original felt on the back of the driver. I use the original ear pads because using 02 pads with this combination removed the treble. I certainly have more treble but I'm not so sure about detail. I think with these cans getting more treble may means losing some bass - its a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul. In my case changing to V-Moda cable also helped my treble. 
 
My best mods so far - for classical and female jazz vocal
Two layers of transpore on the felt over the driver
V-Moda cable
Three of the four bass vents taped up and the felt removed
A light layer of blue tack covered with Paxmate on the baffles - damping with plasticine increases bass but dulls the treble too much for me
Paxmate on all internal surfaces
A sausage of fiberfill under the original ear pads
 
I think I'm over damped because efficiency is dreadful - I have to use high gain on my amp -  maybe I'll start again sometime.
 
Sorry nothing uber original if you or anyone else can come up with something I'd certainly like to know about it. 
 
Mar 28, 2012 at 7:01 AM Post #7,267 of 11,345


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The elusive treble detail! This question has been asked before and no really good answers have been supplied. While there are plenty of reported mods to increase bass - and these headphones sound great for most genres other than classical where treble detail is utmost importance - there are few reported mods to increase treble detail. 
 
My best so far are two layers of transpore on top of the original felt on the back of the driver. I use the original ear pads because using 02 pads with this combination removed the treble. I certainly have more treble but I'm not so sure about detail. I think with these cans getting more treble may means losing some bass - its a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul. In my case changing to V-Moda cable also helped my treble. 
 
My best mods so far - for classical and female jazz vocal
Two layers of transpore on the felt over the driver
V-Moda cable
Three of the four bass vents taped up and the felt removed
A light layer of blue tack covered with Paxmate on the baffles - damping with plasticine increases bass but dulls the treble too much for me
Paxmate on all internal surfaces
A sausage of fiberfill under the original ear pads
 
I think I'm over damped because efficiency is dreadful - I have to use high gain on my amp -  maybe I'll start again sometime.
 
Sorry nothing uber original if you or anyone else can come up with something I'd certainly like to know about it. 

I'd try without the transpore.  I did all the experimenting with transpore and micropore tapes some time back and found that while they were alright for getting a decent frequency response, the sound really opened up when I just went to a naked driver back.
 
 
 
Mar 28, 2012 at 7:23 AM Post #7,268 of 11,345


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You can't compare mods between left and right ear.  The brain doesn't work that way.  It has to be both sides the same.  that being said, the dimples in plasticine probably don't do much. 



You can however, listen to one cup at a time, right?
My ears are bad anyway, I've had hearing problems since I was young. I'm only 16 now, but the last specialist I saw (man was I shocked to see such a gorgeous woman) thinks it's my Eustachian Tubes and my hearing has improved since I started using this nasal spray, although they're audibly different (differing levels of hearing at different frequencies) but that's another story.
What I'm trying to say is I'm no audiophile, my hearing is subpar, and I couldn't hear any substantial difference.
Also, I was talking about filling in the holes around/in the driver, not dimpling the plasticine.
Thanks for the info though, now I know not to try to listen with both ears and try to detect a difference.
 
Mar 28, 2012 at 8:03 AM Post #7,269 of 11,345
The elusive treble detail! This question has been asked before and no really good answers have been supplied. While there are plenty of reported mods to increase bass - and these headphones sound great for most genres other than classical where treble detail is utmost importance - there are few reported mods to increase treble detail. 
 
My best so far are two layers of transpore on top of the original felt on the back of the driver. I use the original ear pads because using 02 pads with this combination removed the treble. I certainly have more treble but I'm not so sure about detail. I think with these cans getting more treble may means losing some bass - its a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul. In my case changing to V-Moda cable also helped my treble. 
 
My best mods so far - for classical and female jazz vocal
Two layers of transpore on the felt over the driver
V-Moda cable
Three of the four bass vents taped up and the felt removed
A light layer of blue tack covered with Paxmate on the baffles - damping with plasticine increases bass but dulls the treble too much for me
Paxmate on all internal surfaces
A sausage of fiberfill under the original ear pads
 
I think I'm over damped because efficiency is dreadful - I have to use high gain on my amp -  maybe I'll start again sometime.
 
Sorry nothing uber original if you or anyone else can come up with something I'd certainly like to know about it. 

I have stuffed the entire cup with a ridiculous amount of cotton, which brought out treble, but didn't exactly make it detailed, will the transpore tape make the treble to dominant? Cotton also increased clarity by miles.
Edit: You might want to remove the paxmate on top of the blutac, foam and paxmate help reduce resonance, but too much muffles the sound and kills off treble.
 
Mar 28, 2012 at 10:30 AM Post #7,270 of 11,345
Regarding treble detail, I am going to try having a completely bare driver with nothing in front of it and the ear save for a protective covering to stop accidental interaction with it.

I would think that having the vents more open would also increase treble detail, but at the cost of bass. I may try to find some open porous insulation type material and cut it into a sound diffusion material type shape and experiment with that too. One mod at a time is the key though and I'm rather reluctant to keep opening them up. I'll have to look into that "ways to save the T50rp while modding" post. I just hope I dont have to buy 100 bucks worth of materials alone just to mod the T50RP. Honestly they are almost perfect the way they are now save for sub bass quantity and treble detail.
 
Mar 28, 2012 at 10:39 AM Post #7,271 of 11,345
Finished my modding for now, I may get some paxmate or the silverstone alternative and replace the cotton, or keep both, decisions decisions, I'd love to get some STAX pads but with the price being what I paid for the headphones and modding tools combined, it's a large decision (boy how I wish there was a cheaper version).
 
I originally got them from soundstige who put blu-tack on the baffle surrounding the driver, he also had two felt squares over both side of the driver and acoustic dampening foam in the cups, it definitely sounded fantastic off the bat, but I decided to go a little further and fine tune it to my liking, many thanks to soundstige for selling them to me.
 
Starting off I put Newplast modelling clay on the baffles, I didn't put the holes in however as I wasn't sure how they'd change the sound, if at all.
 

 
I then put the felt square on the driver and applied electrical tape.
 

 
Cotton in the cups with all four vents closed using electrical tape.
 
 

 
And ofcourse, Shure 840 pads, STAX possibly coming soon? I also had a leftover Sennheiser headband I never used on my HE-300s and it fits and looks fantastically on the T50RPs.
 

 
Was very fun and a great experience, I was very timid to get the T50RPs and give them a little modding with being so inexperienced, but it's incredibly easy with all the fantastic guides and pictures floating around, thankyou to everyone who helped me, greatly appreciated.
 
Mar 28, 2012 at 10:42 AM Post #7,272 of 11,345


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This thread has been indexed by Ludoo, from Pianist's original post until February 16 of this year, and can be searched. This link includes every posting by WJE where he mentioned the word "cable."  It didn't find any pictures though, so I assume WJE posted those between February 16 and today. I hope that helps.

 
Here's the link to the picture of my Fostex T50RPs with the Mogami cable fed into both cups, with the plastic plug in place over the old 3.5mm plug connector spot.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/452404/just-listened-to-some-fostex-t50rps-today-wow/6525#post_8160438
 
Mar 28, 2012 at 12:53 PM Post #7,274 of 11,345
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This thread has been indexed by Ludoo, from Pianist's original post until February 16 of this year, and can be searched. This link includes every posting by WJE where he mentioned the word "cable."  It didn't find any pictures though, so I assume WJE posted those between February 16 and today. I hope that helps.


I wanted to link Ludo's awesome search tool, but it seems I have been beaten to the punch.
 
But the good news is that I have changed my signature to something less snide and more friendly.  It links to the search site.
 
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It's dangerous to go alone!  Take this.

 
 
Mar 28, 2012 at 12:54 PM Post #7,275 of 11,345


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Just found these on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Wooden-Fostex-T50RP-Maplepants-v1-/251012484523?pt=DJ_Gear_Lighting&hash=item3a71828dab#ht_1458wt_1153
 
That's a ridiculously good price for wooden T50RPs, I could be late to the party though.


Those are being sold by Justin, who is a member here and is a MOT (Member of the Trade).  I don't think you'll miss out on the auction, but could send him a message to get a pair built for that price, if you'd like.  However, I'm still of the belief that just adding a wooden cup, does not provide any miracles for the sound - and, may, in some ways even hamper it.  The modifications have to be done in conjunction with the wooden cups to get the most out of the set up.  Plus, after hearing the wooden cups, I'm not 100% convinced, personally, that they are better than the plastic cupped T50RPs with plastic cups and the right modifications.
 
Again, that's just my opinion, though.

 
 
 

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