Hifiman HE1000 Planar Dynamic Headphone
Sep 9, 2023 at 7:56 PM Post #13,396 of 14,628
Yes the HEK v2 OG DOES scale quite nicely, thank you very much!

I've had these cans for about 8 months now, running via Hugo2Go>Violectric v226. Really lovely sound combo. But it had a bit more mid-bass and less detail/sparkle than I wanted. I've never been one to think that a different preamp/amp made much of a sonic difference.

Upgrading to a GS-X mini changed my mind completely! I was pleasantly surprised at how big the difference between the two. The bass is still rock-solid (literally & figuratively) but not overbearing as before. Now it's more taut and very punchy.

And details galore :ksc75smile:. I'm not necessarily hearing details that I didn't hear with the v226, but those details are better presented in 3-D. Also, the soundstage is both larger and better defined.

Yes, I imagine the GS-X mini is near end of life. But with the generous return terms (100% applied to more expensive unit) and the upcoming CFA3, it still made sense to me.

For the time being, my cans are now breathing a new life that is very addicting!!!

(p.s. I have a pair of used Susvara coming in next weekend. can't wait!!!)
 
Sep 10, 2023 at 7:52 AM Post #13,397 of 14,628
After a couple of days of breaking in my new HE1K Stealth I must say I am enjoying their sound signature. I really have zero criticism of the sound. I have no experience with any of the other models though, through notes or obviously A/B. I would say I could use a touch more open staging, not that it is narrow but I would like a bit more height, depth and width for that matter, but not at the risk of it sounding artificial.

I actually expected less bass than I am hearing and more sharpness in the upper range. I am pleased at the levels of both of those ranges. I have not felt any fatigue from brightness.

I have only used balanced connection and the SP3000 and Mass Kobo 475. The SP3000 can drive them and they sound fantastic, but I prefer throwing the amp in the chain to offer more driving authority as opposed to more volume only.

I haven't used any of the stock cables. I have two Arctic Cables that I have used. I also reached out to them to see what their specific recommendation for a cable would be.

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Sep 10, 2023 at 5:58 PM Post #13,398 of 14,628
I took the refurbished deal from Hifiman and got my he1000 stealth a few days ago. I am not 100% sure if they are the stealth edition or the regular v2 as the box is completely neutral. There were three cables in the box which seems to be what the original v2 came with. Is there a way to tell them apart? When I shine a flashlight on the membrane, a greenish reflection appears. Is that a proof for the stealth edition?
 
Sep 10, 2023 at 6:08 PM Post #13,399 of 14,628
I took the refurbished deal from Hifiman and got my he1000 stealth a few days ago. I am not 100% sure if they are the stealth edition or the regular v2 as the box is completely neutral. There were three cables in the box which seems to be what the original v2 came with. Is there a way to tell them apart? When I shine a flashlight on the membrane, a greenish reflection appears. Is that a proof for the stealth edition?
I was just looking into this question. Check this thread out: https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones..._tell_difference_he1000_v2_vs_he1000_stealth/
 
Sep 10, 2023 at 9:28 PM Post #13,400 of 14,628
I took the refurbished deal from Hifiman and got my he1000 stealth a few days ago. I am not 100% sure if they are the stealth edition or the regular v2 as the box is completely neutral. There were three cables in the box which seems to be what the original v2 came with. Is there a way to tell them apart? When I shine a flashlight on the membrane, a greenish reflection appears. Is that a proof for the stealth edition?
Look at the magnets from the inside of the earcups. The magnets on the V2 will be the same length, on the Stealth the middle magnets will be longer than the bottom and top ones. Attached a picture of the Stealth.
 

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Sep 11, 2023 at 4:06 PM Post #13,402 of 14,628
I received a refurbished HE1000 stealth through their upgrade program a couple month ago. It also came with the clear tube cables. In my case. I only received the 1/4 and 1/8 single ended cables. They sent me the black balanced cable later on. I think the clear tube cable sounds slightly better personally.
 
Sep 11, 2023 at 4:23 PM Post #13,403 of 14,628
I received a refurbished HE1000 stealth through their upgrade program a couple month ago. It also came with the clear tube cables. In my case. I only received the 1/4 and 1/8 single ended cables. They sent me the black balanced cable later on. I think the clear tube cable sounds slightly better personally.
How are the headphones themselves? Any issues?
 
Sep 11, 2023 at 4:33 PM Post #13,404 of 14,628
How are the headphones themselves? Any issues?
The headphone itself seems to be brand new to me. In my case, it sounds pretty bright at beginning and it took like 50+ hour burn-in to get the mellow sound. That's how I judge the magnet is brand new. My pair also came with the shiny veneer like the old HE1000 v2, but it has the stealth magnets :)
 
Sep 11, 2023 at 8:01 PM Post #13,405 of 14,628
Here are my EQ settings for HE1000 Stealth. I would appreciate your feedback. (They change bass to Harman 2018 over-ear target level and fix 1800 Hz and 9200 Hz dips). They are based on HE1000 Stealth frequency response

General/universal profile for all music genres:
Preamp: -3.45 dB
Filter: ON PK Fc 25 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 0.5
Filter: ON PK Fc 1800 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 2.5
Filter: ON PK Fc 9200 Hz Gain 1 dB Q 6
(for 1800 Hz peak filter you may prefer Q 2 which is closer to Harman target, to me Q 2.5 sounds better):

For tracks with a lot of treble to the settings above you can also add a High Shelf filter to avoid ear fatigue:
Filter: ON HS Fc 6500 Hz Gain -2 dB Q 0.7

Sometimes vocals may sound too recessed (at least compared to Arya Stealth, I noticed it listening to opera tenors). The following EQ settings help to bring vocals forward and make them more pleasant:
Preamp: -3.45 dB
Filter: ON PK Fc 25 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 0.5
Filter: ON PK Fc 1800 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 2.5
Filter: ON HS Fc 6500 Hz Gain -2.2 dB Q 0.7
Filter: ON PK Fc 9200 Hz Gain 1 dB Q 6
Filter: ON PK Fc 5400 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 6
 
Sep 11, 2023 at 8:49 PM Post #13,406 of 14,628
Here are my EQ settings for HE1000 Stealth. I would appreciate your feedback. (They change bass to Harman 2018 over-ear target level and fix 1800 Hz and 9200 Hz dips). They are based on HE1000 Stealth frequency response

General/universal profile for all music genres:
Preamp: -3.45 dB
Filter: ON PK Fc 25 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 0.5
Filter: ON PK Fc 1800 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 2.5
Filter: ON PK Fc 9200 Hz Gain 1 dB Q 6
(for 1800 Hz peak filter you may prefer Q 2 which is closer to Harman target, to me Q 2.5 sounds better):

For tracks with a lot of treble to the settings above you can also add a High Shelf filter to avoid ear fatigue:
Filter: ON HS Fc 6500 Hz Gain -2 dB Q 0.7

Sometimes vocals may sound too recessed (at least compared to Arya Stealth, I noticed it listening to opera tenors). The following EQ settings help to bring vocals forward and make them more pleasant:
Preamp: -3.45 dB
Filter: ON PK Fc 25 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 0.5
Filter: ON PK Fc 1800 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 2.5
Filter: ON HS Fc 6500 Hz Gain -2.2 dB Q 0.7
Filter: ON PK Fc 9200 Hz Gain 1 dB Q 6
Filter: ON PK Fc 5400 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 6
Good job. I agree with your 2.5 Q at 1.8k. I think the 6.5k cut is needed for vocals/violins/brass, but I'd set the Q at about 3. My sample did not seem to need a rise at 5.4k. I'd like to see a waterfall plot to see if the 9.2k dip coincides with some ringing as its fairly common for HF. Also, if interested try moving 25 Hz to 35 Hz 3 db at .85 Q low shelf, and see if you like that - I do not have the HEK Stealth in hand - but that's my guess. Great can.
 
Sep 12, 2023 at 1:39 AM Post #13,407 of 14,628
Here are my EQ settings for HE1000 Stealth. I would appreciate your feedback. (They change bass to Harman 2018 over-ear target level and fix 1800 Hz and 9200 Hz dips). They are based on HE1000 Stealth frequency response

General/universal profile for all music genres:
Preamp: -3.45 dB
Filter: ON PK Fc 25 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 0.5
Filter: ON PK Fc 1800 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 2.5
Filter: ON PK Fc 9200 Hz Gain 1 dB Q 6
(for 1800 Hz peak filter you may prefer Q 2 which is closer to Harman target, to me Q 2.5 sounds better):

For tracks with a lot of treble to the settings above you can also add a High Shelf filter to avoid ear fatigue:
Filter: ON HS Fc 6500 Hz Gain -2 dB Q 0.7

Sometimes vocals may sound too recessed (at least compared to Arya Stealth, I noticed it listening to opera tenors). The following EQ settings help to bring vocals forward and make them more pleasant:
Preamp: -3.45 dB
Filter: ON PK Fc 25 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 0.5
Filter: ON PK Fc 1800 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 2.5
Filter: ON HS Fc 6500 Hz Gain -2.2 dB Q 0.7
Filter: ON PK Fc 9200 Hz Gain 1 dB Q 6
Filter: ON PK Fc 5400 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 6
I don't think it has dip at 9200hz. In fact it probably has peak there. What you see on the measurement is an artifact. Google tone generator and see for yourself. Both Arya Stealth and HEKSE have peak there in my experience. HEK Stealth probably same.

In this measurement: https://vsg.squig.link/?share=VSG_Target,HIFIMAN_HE1000_Stealth You need to ignore anything above 5khz. If treble is too much, just use wide Q to lower general energy there. Don't mess with peaks and dips.

Something like this should do good:
Filter 1: ON LSC Fc 60 Hz Gain 4.0 dB Q 0.600
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 700 Hz Gain 1.0 dB Q 1.000
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 1900 Hz Gain 4.0 dB Q 3.000

This will tame the highs slightly, add some warmth and bring some more focus to mids. Expect it to sound less spacious and more meaty.
 
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Sep 13, 2023 at 1:39 PM Post #13,408 of 14,628
I'm seriously considering the HE1000 Stealth after hearing them a few days ago at a local dealer.
I'm quite new to the Head-Fi world, so excuse my ignorance:
Have any of you HE1000 owners ever heard any IEM's that comes close to the performance of the HE's? I ask because the form factor of IEM's appeals to me, but only if I can get similar performance af the HE's offer.
 
Sep 13, 2023 at 3:50 PM Post #13,409 of 14,628
I'm seriously considering the HE1000 Stealth after hearing them a few days ago at a local dealer.
I'm quite new to the Head-Fi world, so excuse my ignorance:
Have any of you HE1000 owners ever heard any IEM's that comes close to the performance of the HE's? I ask because the form factor of IEM's appeals to me, but only if I can get similar performance af the HE's offer.
I own the HE 1000 stealth and best headphone purchase I ever made! To me they just do everything right. Only the treble can be a little bright but once you break them in it gets better overtime
 
Sep 13, 2023 at 6:38 PM Post #13,410 of 14,628
I'm seriously considering the HE1000 Stealth after hearing them a few days ago at a local dealer.
I'm quite new to the Head-Fi world, so excuse my ignorance:
Have any of you HE1000 owners ever heard any IEM's that comes close to the performance of the HE's? I ask because the form factor of IEM's appeals to me, but only if I can get similar performance af the HE's offer.
64 Audio U12T. Why? It has a high treble spike, sub bass boost with mid bass, slightly recessed vocals, and it has '3d like' imaging with excellent separation of instruments and layering.
 

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