[nicholars]

Don't think amp is very important with HE400, even my sansa clip+ sounds decent with them. Probably because the HE400 (in my ppinion) sound mediocre with stock pads and no EQ, but excellent with with mods and EQ, I sound like a broken record so I will stop repeating myself.

 

[PETEREK]

Is there anything I can do to these that will increase the bass without totally trashing the sound stage? 

 

[rudeboybass]

Sure there acceptable and better than a lot of other cans out there without an amp but your not going to be taking advantage of what the he400 has to offer with out some power this can't be . I've owned 3 different Sansa clips and for 20$ there awesome, and they sound better than an iPod but that's like comparing two different turds

If your going to be using the he400 on a handheld device what's even the point of owning them!?
It's like having a Ferrari and puting 87 octane gas in it. It's going to run like crap
You need around 700mw to 1w at least to get your money's worth out of an ortho phone.

 

[MattTCG]

  Is there anything I can do to these that will increase the bass without totally trashing the sound stage? 

Jergpad mod with bass vents. 

 

[PETEREK]

It looks like a risky operation. Would I NEED the black cloth that goes on the inside of the grills to be on? I bought a pair and the previous owner didn't send them along.

 

[Saoshyant]

If your going to be using the he400 on a handheld device what's even the point of owning them!?
It's like having a Ferrari and puting 87 octane gas in it. It's going to run like crap
You need around 700mw to 1w at least to get your money's worth out of an ortho phone.

 
I disagree, this can sounds really quite good out of an X3.  Yes, it could sound better with better amping, but its not the waste of time you're implying either.

 

[MattTCG]

I had the he400 on an e17 for almost a year and was quite happy with the results. 

 

[beaver316]

  Jergpad mod with bass vents. 

 
I wouldn't do the vent mod on the HE-400. Totally rolls off the sub-bass at the expense of a slight mid bass bump. Better off with EQ. Vent mod on the HE-500 is a.o.k though...

 

[rudeboybass]

If your going to be using the he400 on a handheld device what's even the point of owning them!?

It's like having a Ferrari and puting 87 octane gas in it. It's going to run like crap

You need around 700mw to 1w at least to get your money's worth out of an ortho phone.

I disagree, this can sounds really quite good out of an X3.  Yes, it could sound better with better amping, but its not the waste of time you're implying either.

The x3 has 100x the power of consumer daps so what you said is irrelevant to my point,
A consumer MP3 player just is not going to take advantage of all the can has to offer. If your going to be using one as a source you should just get a more efficient pair of cans that is paired better with a low power device

 

[sragoowanshi]

I have an additional comment, the cable connectors dont seem to be aligned properly, is this normal? 
 
 
 
Also, I hope i've connected the cables properly? Sorry I'm a complete noob..
 

 

[Saoshyant]

The x3 has 100x the power of consumer daps so what you said is irrelevant to my point,
A consumer MP3 player just is not going to take advantage of all the can has to offer. If your going to be using one as a source you should just get a more efficient pair of cans that is paired better with a low power device

My point is relevant, given that I was commenting about a very specific thing you mentioned..  You said you need at least 700mW to get your money's worth with the HE-400.  The X3 puts out 270mw at 32ohm, and the HE-400 is more demanding than that.  I know I enjoy the HE-400 given this combo, and I seriously doubt I'm the only one either.  My point was that I disagree with your assessment of needing 700mW minimum.

 

[rudeboybass]

You need 700mw to get the MOST out of them

 

[beaver316]

  I have an additional comment, the cable connectors dont seem to be aligned properly, is this normal? 
 
 
 
Also, I hope i've connected the cables properly? Sorry I'm a complete noob..
 
 

 
Grab the cups and twist them till they align, mine were like that as well. At first I thought it was a manufacturing defect, but turns out the cups twist.

 

[rudeboybass]

I have an x3 and and an Asgard 2, while the x3 can be enjoyable with the he400 the asg2 will sound better any day of the week, that can't be argued,

 

[rudeboybass]

Sorry guys, shoulda recognized where this was going.

Sorry guys, shoulda recognized where this was going.

Saoshyant,
I'm sorry that was a dick move on my part, I usually don't troll like that. I haven't been having a good day and I let it spill onto headfi! * head hangs in shame*