**Hifiman HE-400 Impressions and Discussion Thread**
Jan 9, 2013 at 8:11 AM Post #4,531 of 22,116
Ill probably go to HE-500 a bit later as well, but ill wait for now.
Mad lust Envy, would you say that going from a E17 to a schitt valhala is a non-costeffective upgrade to make? 
I am wondering if i should go for a better amp/dac now, and then move to the HE-500, or jsut get the HE-500 first (still need to test them at the store but this freaking illness is killing me).
 
Jan 9, 2013 at 8:12 AM Post #4,532 of 22,116
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Hi,
 
I would like to upgrade to the HE-500 (and I will) but for that I have to sell the HE-400 first. (I might sell my D7000 too for the LCD2 one day)
So I made a classified here : http://www.head-fi.org/t/645250/he-400-like-new

I keep hearing good things about the HE-500.  Once I get a more suitable amp, I want to get a pair to compare with the HE-400 and then just keep the one I like best.  Don't really want to afford keeping both, but I can fortunately at least get both and see if I really do prefer the HE-500. :D
 
Post your impressions when you get them... would love to hear another opinion of the HE-500 from a fellow HE-400 owner.
 
Jan 9, 2013 at 8:13 AM Post #4,533 of 22,116
FWIR, the Valhalla is designed for high impedance headphones, which planar magnetics like the HE-400 ARE NOT. Lyr would be better for low impedance, current hungry cans.
 
Jan 9, 2013 at 8:26 AM Post #4,534 of 22,116
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I keep hearing good things about the HE-500.  Once I get a more suitable amp, I want to get a pair to compare with the HE-400 and then just keep the one I like best.  Don't really want to afford keeping both, but I can fortunately at least get both and see if I really do prefer the HE-500. :D
 
Post your impressions when you get them... would love to hear another opinion of the HE-500 from a fellow HE-400 owner.

 
Sure I will ! :)
I'm using the Burson Soloist (I have to do a review of that amp first). And to be honest the HE-400 sounds great out of that amp.
I can't wait to test the HE-500 with it !
 
Jan 9, 2013 at 9:01 AM Post #4,535 of 22,116
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FWIR, the Valhalla is designed for high impedance headphones, which planar magnetics like the HE-400 ARE NOT. Lyr would be better for low impedance, current hungry cans.

Ok, lets have a look at the Lyr then (assuming i can find them here in Poland). Thx >D.
 
Jan 9, 2013 at 11:08 AM Post #4,536 of 22,116
I find it strange that there is a big LCD2 ($1000) thread here on full-sized headphones subforum, but no HE500 ($700) thread. The HE500 thread over at summit-fi is barely trafficked compared to threads here. Ah well.
 
Jan 9, 2013 at 11:15 AM Post #4,537 of 22,116
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I'm putting out over 10watts to the HE400, and I feel its just slightly better than stuff like the Magni, E9K, E17. Yes, it's better, but they do not scale that much.
This was with a lot of level matching by ear and some android spl meters and non-expectation bias. The HE400 is pretty efficient, and just does not need a lot. People wanna justify the price for the miniscule gain, but all I saw was the HE400 sounding relatively the same with the addition of the amp signature differences.


After that first full watt, 10 watts is only adding 9-12 dB of potential output. Far more power than you would ever need!
 
I can't even take my O2 to max (2.5X gain) without feeling like my head will pop.
 
Jan 9, 2013 at 12:42 PM Post #4,538 of 22,116
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCicM6i59_I
 
after listening to this track on he5le I had to take a deep breath as I was next to this great musician and his mighty instrument, this is the track when you can test dynamics, texture, details, transients and resolution
 
this is the track where you can enjoy the music and feel instrument mastery, feel free to listen to this track loud, breathtaking experience
 
tomorrow I will be auditioning he4 + ef5, can't wait
 
Jan 9, 2013 at 1:36 PM Post #4,540 of 22,116
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCicM6i59_I
 
after listening to this track on he5le I had to take a deep breath as I was next to this great musician and his mighty instrument, this is the track when you can test dynamics, texture, details, transients and resolution
 
this is the track where you you can enjoy the music and feel instrument mastery, feel free to listen to this track loud, breathtaking experience
 
tomorrow I will be auditioning he4 + ef5, can't wait

I prefer his Bach performance on his album [size=1.7em]The 6 Unaccompanied Cello Suites Complete[/size] to that, a lot more detail and clarity. But maybe not as much sense of open space (all the tracks on that album sound like you are sitting face-to-face to him pretty much).
 
Jan 9, 2013 at 2:51 PM Post #4,541 of 22,116
what you have mentioned above is what I listened testing he5le+ef5+xa5400es a few months ago - I was shattered into pieces listening to this, tremendous performance, shocked by the realism
 
just found this one on youtube in HD quality so decided to post it here anyway
 
beautiful tracks imho
 
Jan 9, 2013 at 3:01 PM Post #4,544 of 22,116
I'm thinking i should get a loaner pair of HE-400 going around.  for now, limited to U.S. addresses so shipping doesnt take forever.  each person would be responsible for shipping it to the next person on the list or purchasing it as a b-stock.  Any interest?
 
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Jan 9, 2013 at 3:07 PM Post #4,545 of 22,116
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Well that leaves using an equalizer. I do not understand why so many people go out of their way to avoid using an equalizer though.

 
I'm not sure, either.  Intimidation?  Desire of a pure, untouched sound?  If one just stays on the path to try and achieve the perfect sound without any EQ, they will be on a life-long journey.
 

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