[GUIDE] Sonic Differences Between DT770-DT990 Models & More
Nov 3, 2010 at 9:50 PM Post #121 of 1,845
Originally Posted by Zombie_X /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Sorry that part 3 has been delayed, I've just forgot about it..



Looking forward to it! Thanks for all the excellent info, I just pounced on the DT770 Pro/250s.
 
I've gone Bayer DT-411s -> Sennheiser HD 500s (both ended up with a dead can).. so kinda looking forward to going back to the Bayer camp.
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Will be driving them from a Marantz PM7000.
 
Nov 4, 2010 at 4:42 PM Post #122 of 1,845
Spectacular post! This is very, very helpful for those getting into Beyer.
 
Hmm, I'm torn between the DT880/600, or the DT990/600. I've had the DT880/32 about a month ago, and it was quite good! I even ran it straight off my MP3. Now, with this "next" Beyer I'm going to get, I'll be pairing it with a nice amp as well, so DT880 is once again a possibility. But, I think I may want to try the DT990, with it's fantastic bass.
 
Which of the two is more along "Sennheiser" sound? (Big fan of the lush, smooth, and dark sound. I'm also basshead)
Which of the two is more along "Grado" sound? (Not a fan. Way to bright, not to mention just a fatiguing sound overall)
 
Nov 4, 2010 at 5:23 PM Post #123 of 1,845
I agree with every single word about the Tesla T1.
This is really a great review/comparison.
 
Hope to read part 3 soon.
 
Nov 4, 2010 at 6:04 PM Post #124 of 1,845
I wonder if I'll ever find a Beyer that I'll like. I've had a rather eclectic sampling so far but have always felt let down in some way. Testing was not consistent, but they all ample power from a variety of amps.
990/600 - flabby bottom end, recessed mids
990/250 - high end sibilance turned me off
770/80 - got rid of the shrillness of the 990, but I'm still missing my mids
T50p - a very odd phone that seemed to be both dark and bright at times, nice mids, but manic everything else
48e - cuts like a surgeon's knife; fascinating/revealing to listen to, but not fun at all
 
Should I even bother hunting down a 880 to try out some day? Or maybe a DT150 or 250?
 
Nov 4, 2010 at 11:35 PM Post #125 of 1,845
Hi I'm quite interested in purchasing a beyer headphones in order to try out their sound signature, and now I'm currently deciding between two of them, the DT770/80 and the Dt990/250. I can get the 770 new for 185USD and the DT990 used for around 270USD. Would it be worth it for me to get the DT990s? I like to think of myself as a bass lover and would like a speaker/subwoofer like type of bass (chest thumping bass would be good! ) Also I only own the AD700s and thus would have no grounds for comparison with bass heavy headphones...
 
Nov 5, 2010 at 7:06 PM Post #126 of 1,845
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Which of the two is more along "Sennheiser" sound? (Big fan of the lush, smooth, and dark sound. I'm also basshead)
Which of the two is more along "Grado" sound? (Not a fan. Way to bright, not to mention just a fatiguing sound overall)


Neither sound anything Senns, but if you really stretch it to look for any similarities you can I'd say the 880s since they're the least bright.  The 990s have awesome bass and pair it with an incredible soundstage which is a hard combination to find.  The problem is the highs.  I found them just too piercing and shrill.  Even more than Grados.  Grados ramp up the treble slowly so they're (IMO) bright without being piercing while the DT990s just have a =2241&graphID[1]=383&graphID[2]=&graphID[3]=&graphType=0&buttonSelection=Compare+Headphones]huge peak in the treble.  I loved everything else about the DT990/600s, but the high were more than I could take so I had to let them go.
 
Nov 5, 2010 at 11:43 PM Post #127 of 1,845

 
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Hi I'm quite interested in purchasing a beyer headphones in order to try out their sound signature, and now I'm currently deciding between two of them, the DT770/80 and the Dt990/250. I can get the 770 new for 185USD and the DT990 used for around 270USD. Would it be worth it for me to get the DT990s? I like to think of myself as a bass lover and would like a speaker/subwoofer like type of bass (chest thumping bass would be good! ) Also I only own the AD700s and thus would have no grounds for comparison with bass heavy headphones...



Do not get the DT990 at that price, those are hugely overpriced IMHO.  If you look around, I'm sure you could find a pair for under $200.  As far as which one you should get, I like both, but find that I use the 990 more than the 770.  I find that I really like the sound of open 'phones in comparison to closed, among other reasons. 
Two things you should consider before making a decision one way or another is 1)  what you are planning to use these for (at home, at school, noisy places, etc.), and 2)  are you planning to amp these headphones at all?
 
It may also be worth determining how you feel about treble as thats something many people can't stand about the DT990. 
 
Nov 6, 2010 at 7:01 PM Post #128 of 1,845
Agree'd about the price of the DT990.  bought my 600Ohm pair from Amazon for $224 brand new and I find that $270 used is a rip off, that is unless they were bought at full price or are modded/recabled.
 
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Do not get the DT990 at that price, those are hugely overpriced IMHO.  If you look around, I'm sure you could find a pair for under $200.  As far as which one you should get, I like both, but find that I use the 990 more than the 770.  I find that I really like the sound of open 'phones in comparison to closed, among other reasons. 
Two things you should consider before making a decision one way or another is 1)  what you are planning to use these for (at home, at school, noisy places, etc.), and 2)  are you planning to amp these headphones at all?
 
It may also be worth determining how you feel about treble as thats something many people can't stand about the DT990. 

 
Nov 21, 2010 at 4:58 PM Post #129 of 1,845
Anyone know of anyone/anywhere in the UK/EU that sells DT880/600 Premiums for a not ridiculous price?
 
I think I like the idea of a pair, but they do seem rather expensive over here in England.
 
Nov 21, 2010 at 5:16 PM Post #130 of 1,845


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Anyone know of anyone/anywhere in the UK/EU that sells DT880/600 Premiums for a not ridiculous price?
 
I think I like the idea of a pair, but they do seem rather expensive over here in England.


Everything seems rather expensive in England. That's why people in retail call it Treasure Island due to the profits they can make overcharging.
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For example a Leben CS-600 cost £4700 in good ol' Blighty. Price Japan is £2382 inc shipping. As they say in the US... Go figure.
 
Nov 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM Post #131 of 1,845
It sucks. We get the occasional offer from Play etc, but not very often. They usually only have about 3 of what ever it is in stock, which inevitably are bought by the same person and sold on eBay for £££ profits.
 
Just reading a post on AVF about someone speccing up a pair of DT880s with champagne anodised parts and a T1 leather headband direct from Beyer. Apparently cost almost £300! I bet they look rather spiffing though.
 
Nov 21, 2010 at 7:27 PM Post #133 of 1,845
Well based on the hd600 vs dt990 part of this thread I have bought the dt990 250 ohm premium. hope Zombie_x is the best reviewer in the world, lol!
 
Nov 21, 2010 at 11:14 PM Post #134 of 1,845
I'm not the best reviewer out there but I've tried to describe their sound the most accurately as possible.
 
Nov 22, 2010 at 4:43 PM Post #135 of 1,845
Just thought I would add that recessed mids are a big plus for some listeners...
Love my DT770-Pro80s!
That is why I think everyone should try out headphones in person as much as possible.
 
Support your local dealer...
 
P.S. Interesting comments on the T50s, I have been wondering about them.
My take on the Pro 770 vs 880, the 880 is tilted more towards the treble compared to the 770s. The 880s are stronger in the mid/treble, lighter in the bass. YMMV.
 
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I wonder if I'll ever find a Beyer that I'll like. I've had a rather eclectic sampling so far but have always felt let down in some way. Testing was not consistent, but they all ample power from a variety of amps.
990/600 - flabby bottom end, recessed mids
990/250 - high end sibilance turned me off
770/80 - got rid of the shrillness of the 990, but I'm still missing my mids
T50p - a very odd phone that seemed to be both dark and bright at times, nice mids, but manic everything else
48e - cuts like a surgeon's knife; fascinating/revealing to listen to, but not fun at all
 
Should I even bother hunting down a 880 to try out some day? Or maybe a DT150 or 250?



 

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