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Oct 24, 2019 at 11:21 AM Post #40,456 of 65,621
Where did you read the WH1 uses the 325e drivers?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/marksp...with-its-limited-edition-the-white-headphone/

The article was changed to state GS1000e... but Grado has kept the frequency response spec to 14hz-28khz, which is exactly the same as the SR325e. (The GS1000e is 8hz-35khz) Seems a little suspicious, because they got the incorrect information from Grado directly, and then it was changed. Hmm.

At the TAF demo, we both found the GH4 much better balanced tonally. The GW1 was too bright through the upper mids and treble, and lacked bass punch.

Urrrgh, I missed TAF. Completely forgot about it. :frowning2:
 
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Oct 24, 2019 at 1:31 PM Post #40,457 of 65,621
Interesting to read your thoughts. I've been blown away by the GH4, as the best in all respects (most satisfying, but also the greatest "sweet-spot" performer) of the smaller Grados. With high-end Schiit gear (GungnirMB, Mjolnir2), the soudstaging on the GH4 is good. Limited, but good, and perhaps enhanced by the sheer presence, punch, and, for me, superior tonal balance compared to the others.

I must say....the GS3000e offers some of the best soundstaging in terms of overall space and separation, as well as easily allowing individual voices to stand out while still being part of a dimensional, textural mass of music, of any of the excellent components I've owned. Far, far beyond what the GS1000 and the PS2000e can do....the PS2000e is precise and present, but there is an organic, window-on-the-performance-space, yet viscerally present, quality. As someone who spent decades with excellent speakers and source material/equipment, I'm used to good reproduction of musical environments. These are the first cans I can compulsively listen to with the sense of being lost in the event. The GH4 compensates by just nailing the music. My two favorite models.

You're making me really want to snag a GS3000e! What DAC/Amp are you using with them?
 
Oct 24, 2019 at 6:48 PM Post #40,459 of 65,621
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marksp...with-its-limited-edition-the-white-headphone/

The article was changed to state GS1000e... but Grado has kept the frequency response spec to 14hz-28khz, which is exactly the same as the SR325e. (The GS1000e is 8hz-35khz) Seems a little suspicious, because they got the incorrect information from Grado directly, and then it was changed. Hmm.

LOL, this is just speculation, and a wrong one. SR325e's frequency response is 18-24kHz, not 14-28kHz.
 
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Oct 24, 2019 at 7:05 PM Post #40,460 of 65,621
LOL, this is just speculation, and a wrong one. SR325e's ftequency response is 18-24kHz, not 14-28kHz.

I wonder how Grado gets these measurements lol. What is their margin of error, -15/+3dB? Not hating on them, I joined this site because of my recent addiction to the Grado sound and look but I know my GH2s definitely make way less than 3dB down at their quoted 14hz low end, even at around 30hz its noticeably lower haha.
 
Oct 25, 2019 at 1:33 AM Post #40,461 of 65,621
I wonder how Grado gets these measurements lol.

They probably just choose some numbers that work in the expected price range, so wider = more expensive. Other companies are guilty of this too (the Sony SA5000's advertised response was 6hz-110khz)
 
Oct 25, 2019 at 2:33 AM Post #40,462 of 65,621
I wonder how Grado gets these measurements lol. What is their margin of error, -15/+3dB? Not hating on them, I joined this site because of my recent addiction to the Grado sound and look but I know my GH2s definitely make way less than 3dB down at their quoted 14hz low end, even at around 30hz its noticeably lower haha.

Anyways, it seems from the GH2 onwards, Grado has made improvement to sub-bass extension to their drivers. I am quite amazed that my HF3 remains noticeable at 20Hz at normal listening volume.
 
Oct 25, 2019 at 1:11 PM Post #40,463 of 65,621
Moving from 225e's to GH2's, what should I expect?

Love the dynamic sound of the 225e's, and graininess on the mid range, but I'm finding the highs a little fatiguing.
 
Oct 25, 2019 at 1:37 PM Post #40,464 of 65,621
Moving from 225e's to GH2's, what should I expect?

Love the dynamic sound of the 225e's, and graininess on the mid range, but I'm finding the highs a little fatiguing.

Going from the SR325e's to the GH2's, the sound got much smoother. Much less brightness. I sometimes use the Schiit Loki to add a bit of extra bass. My newest acquisition is Beautiful ear pads. I have been using these for about a week straight. GH2's, plus Beautiful pads and a Schiit Vali 2 is audio bliss.

I still dislike the Grado cable, but the sound (and now comfort), are amazing. The only pair of headphones that I can never imagine selling. And that is saying something for me.:yum:

Shane D
 
Oct 25, 2019 at 5:05 PM Post #40,465 of 65,621
Good sounding limited edition phones like HF3 have an extra attraction. Don't wait until there are no longer available, they have been steadily selling them but time is limited also.
I ordered the HF3s when there were released, but for several reasons I have just tried them. Out of the box, I was pretty impressed (have the sr80i, GH2, GS2000e), but they are now going to burn-in school....so we’ll see. Think they may replace the sr80i for travels etc.
 
Oct 25, 2019 at 5:27 PM Post #40,466 of 65,621
I ordered the HF3s when there were released, but for several reasons I have just tried them. Out of the box, I was pretty impressed (have the sr80i, GH2, GS2000e), but they are now going to burn-in school....so we’ll see. Think they may replace the sr80i for travels etc.

That is what I was/may be going to get the HF3 for, as well.

Was contemplating the GH3s as a similarly compact wood body headphone, but heard some less positive reviews of them.
 
Oct 25, 2019 at 8:04 PM Post #40,467 of 65,621
I have the GH3, light, comfortable, very good performance beyond it's price.

That said, I had a pair of the HF3 for a couple of weeks and would recommend them as a first choice between the two.

If they sell out you can always go back to the GH3 and end up with an excellent phone with great value. No losers....
 
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Oct 29, 2019 at 10:57 PM Post #40,469 of 65,621
Tried some cheap Chinese sponge pads on my HF3. Comfort is increased a bit. There is a bit less bass, a bit more treble with the sound with these pads, making the sound more like the RS2e. A good and cheap pad alternative.
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Oct 30, 2019 at 10:30 AM Post #40,470 of 65,621
I've gone back to the original L cushions on my GH4. I was using Grado G cushions based on recommendations from a couple of reviews. The bigger bass and comfort factor werey nice, but I ran into a few recordings where added sibilance spoiled the show.
 
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