Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Feb 19, 2019 at 1:56 AM Post #5,056 of 62,440
SQ is MW07 > MTW (it's close) > Bose

Whole package is MTW > Bose (it's close) > MW07

Gym use is Bose > MTW > MW07

If my only criteria was taking them to the gym, I'd get the Bose. If battery life wasn't an issue, I'd get the MW07. If SQ is paramount, MW07 is your best bet. If you need good battery life, get the MTW. If having A+ SQ isn't worth an extra $130, the Bose are fantastic.
I'm so curious how these sound compared to my beloved QCY QS1 - but I don't think anyone has them too, to compare them right?
 
Feb 19, 2019 at 12:04 PM Post #5,060 of 62,440
The same as comparing a VW Golf with a Porsche...
Both do the job but with a different user experience.
...true, but...https://jalopnik.com/why-volkswagens-are-the-only-cars-that-can-drive-faster-1540470407 only VW's can drive faster than 280mph, which no Porsche(unmodified/aftermkt tuned) can do no matter how much wealth you have, lol. And too call $300 a 'flagship' only goes to show how feeble/limited these early gen TWEs are. Give it a couple of yrs, we'll see >$1k TWE no doubt. HiFiman & Senn will have 'flagship' TWEs for your $2k+ iphone XS Max+++ in 2025 for only $3k-10k+, I predict!

Comparing $30 chi-fi TWE is fair when $300 TWE 'flagship' are still giving SQ = <$100 wired iems.
 
Feb 19, 2019 at 12:07 PM Post #5,062 of 62,440
Also, keep in mind data transfer is dependent on the codec AND the connection quality between the two devices. If you have a poor connection, the data rate will suffer. This is why in BT options, there is an ability to select "sound quality" vs. "connection quality". It's possible one of the devices you're using has poor connection strength, so the bitrate suffers, while BT 5 allows for better coexistence within the 2.4 GHz spectrum, and thus better connection quality.
Don't think that is a good description of how BT 5.0 works.
 
Feb 19, 2019 at 12:38 PM Post #5,064 of 62,440
I'm so curious how these sound compared to my beloved QCY QS1 - but I don't think anyone has them too, to compare them right?
So I'm wondering, hate how many versions we can't keep strait on these Chi-Fi brands...did you try the KZ7s yet? Seems reddit user thinks they work well with the TRN adapter

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/aj0lot/combo_review_trn_bt20_and_kz_zs7/

, which has plenty of hiss when used with sensitive iem, CA, some Shure, etc https://www.headphone.com/blogs/news/campfire-audio-orion-in-ear-monitors-review
"paired with the TRN BT20 wireless Bluetooth adapters, the Orions had very noticeable hiss or white noise. This was also the case with the Monolith THX-AAA Balanced DAC/Amp. With the use of the iFi IEMatch2.5, the problem went away. In short, I recommend having a very low output impedance and quiet source to pair with the Orions. The IEMatch is also handy regardless as it’ll make the Orions work universally."

incorrect notation that bt20 does only SBC in one review, it has AAC support also, enough to get good review from someone using CIEM planar :https://forum.headphone.com/t/wireless-headphones-yay-or-nay/664/110

Different case, but same BT 5.0 earphones? http://www.thephonograph.net/qcy-t1-pro-touch-control-review/ I might try those, bc they have decent sound isolation.
Was also considering:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MHN4Z61/ref=sspa_dk_hqp_detail_aax_0?psc=1



Thank is was this linked article that got me searching for the Tranya T2:https://www.headphonesty.com/2018/06/why-you-should-buy-true-wireless-headphones/

Anyone try those? https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Wi...es/dp/B07KW1ZPVM?ref_=bl_dp_s_web_15077608011

I'm sure I'll drop these into the sink/bathtub, so need to buy 2 pairs at a time, or get some with superior water resistance rating. Though if I just go for the clunky/bulky TRN adapter/KZ 7 setup, I can spend <$100, and wait another 6-12mo for something better in tiny TWEs with longer runtimes, better SQ etc, that more than likely will appear :)
 
Feb 19, 2019 at 12:57 PM Post #5,065 of 62,440
Don't think that is a good description of how BT 5.0 works.
As an answer to his specific question, I completely disagree. I'm not defining BT 5, I'm addressing his specific question with a simple answer. Based on your responses, I understand you like details, details, details, but sometimes simplicity is genius.
 
Feb 19, 2019 at 2:05 PM Post #5,066 of 62,440
I just went ahead and bought the Jabra Elite Active in navy and so far I'm very pleased with both call and music quality. The one complaint I have are the included ear tips. Any recommendations for replacing the stock tips with more comfortable options? I'd like to be able to wear them for long stretches of time, if possible.
 
Feb 19, 2019 at 6:53 PM Post #5,069 of 62,440
Anyone think the new Galaxy Buds will offer significant improvements on the current gen?
In terms of audio quality, I'm not optimistic. Samsung has a history of making great flagship products, but the accessories are merely "consumer-grade", although I suppose that fits into the business strategy and overall profitability. It may have the proprietary "Samsung HD" codec (whatever that is, might just be some DSP magic) and will sound "good", but I don't think it'll be anything like the MW07, MTW, or even the E8. The target buyer is likely someone NOT on these forums.
 
Feb 19, 2019 at 6:58 PM Post #5,070 of 62,440
Does aptx be a bigger difference than just supporting aac? Also, you have any idea of battery life, usb-c, price? I assume since it will be on indiegogo, it will be cheaper for early buyers.
Depends.

Apple Music over iPhone (AAC), sounds great. If you're a Spotify (320 kbps) user, Spotify (320 kbps) over Android aptX or LDAC sounds better than Spotify (320 kbps) over iPhone AAC.

Spotify (320 kbps) over Android aptX or LDAC, sounds better than Spotify (320 kbps) over Android AAC.

I have both an iPhone Xs Max (AAC) and a Samsung Galaxy s8 (aptX & LDAC). Using some HPs with multi-connect, I can easily A/B and toggle between them. Also, if you've enabled Developer Options on your Android device, you can easily toggle between the codecs.
 

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