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Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

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  1. 05stisilver
    I was hoping to replace my Jabra Elite Sport for gym/training/bike riding use. I need the hear through mode. I had the 65t but they didn't fit well and hurt my ears after a short period of time.
    I have or had (way to many)
    Jabra Elite Sport
    Sabbat E12
    Jlab Jbuds
    TRN BT20 with TRN 80 and Revonext QT2

    I'm eyeing the Advanced that is coming out in the next couple of days. But I was expecting that the AT was going to be perfect for my gym use.
  2. clerkpalmer
    They are solid for this purpose. One thing they have going is they have a rock solid fit. Best I’ve ever tried actually. The fin is well done. If you’re a runner they would be a very good choice. RHA would fall out breathing heavily....
  3. Tommy C
    the Jabra Elite Sport has the heat-through mode. Not sure if the 65t is an upgrade in that area.
  4. srinivasvignesh
    The main difference I understand is that X12 Pro is open and you can hear ambient noise pretty well (the fitment is more Airpods style). The E12 is more traditional seal type, that provides isolation.
  5. 05stisilver
    Sounds good then. I will give them a try.

    I had them both and ended up selling the 65t due to fitment and it's about time to retire the Elite Sport I have had them since they came out and the battery doesn't even last 2 hours anymore. So I need a suitable replacement.
    Tommy C likes this.
  6. chinmie
    I've tested my friend's mavin and compare it to my M2. they're a bit similar, but the Mavin have a more engaging sound with more separation, while the M2 has a warmer tone, more relaxed feel and more intimate staging. both equally good sound

    comparing price and battery life, the Mavin is a better deal. the M2 wins on size and ambient mode.
    pitsel and howdy like this.
  7. Tommy C
    I have the Jabra Elite Sport 2nd gen with the 50% longer battery life and although it’s advertised to last 4.5 hrs on a single charge I get around 5.5 hrs if I don’t blast the volume. I haven’t found a TWE yet with better package of connectivity, battery life and call quality.
    The sound quality is adequate for my needs so unless something better pops up I’m gonna run them to the ground at least for now.
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2019
  8. RobinFood
    Well, I am pretty sure the Nuarls are going to leave me. For music they are pretty nice, but the beeping and hissing while watching a movie and on calls was too much. What is more is that they just had a 20$ price drop recently. I might pick them up again if I get a message from the company saying that they have a firmware fix for the issue, at the lower price they are now. I also realized how important it is for me to have ambient mode, both at work and at home with the wife and kids. I think I can't really go without that feature. So, maybe go back to the glidic and accept that aac doesn't work on it, or save up for the MTW and hope that they fix it up soon...or just grab the Sabbat earbuds.

    One thing I did find really interesting though is how they made SBC sound so good. Actually, all TWE on 5.0 sounds good with my budget phone that only has SBC. I streamed music to my Shanling M0, and while it does not have ANY hissing, SBC really didn't sound very good compared to the TWE sets. I am wondering if it is the tuning that is more bass heavy in most cases, or if bluetooth makes better use of SBC codec.
  9. SomeGuyDude
    Preeeeeeetty sure BT5.0 makes zero difference in terms of how the codecs perform.
    monsieurfromag3 likes this.
  10. RobinFood
    I did read a few places where it said it can transfer data twice as fast, but I am not sure if it is just marketing or just data transfer...
  11. SomeGuyDude
    It can, but that doesn't affect this. It's like talking about USB speeds and their relation to what codec your files are in. USB3.0 doesn't offer any benefits vs USB2.0 when you're playing your mp3s.
  12. hifi80sman
    Also, keep in mind data transfer is dependent on the codec AND the connection quality between the two devices. If you have a poor connection, the data rate will suffer. This is why in BT options, there is an ability to select "sound quality" vs. "connection quality". It's possible one of the devices you're using has poor connection strength, so the bitrate suffers, while BT 5 allows for better coexistence within the 2.4 GHz spectrum, and thus better connection quality.
    Bartig likes this.
  13. chinmie
    @SomeGuyDude how do you compare between the Bose, Senn MTW, and the M&D MW07 on SQ alone and also as a whole package? does the Bose still holds up these days?
  14. SomeGuyDude
    SQ is MW07 > MTW (it's close) > Bose

    Whole package is MTW > Bose (it's close) > MW07

    Gym use is Bose > MTW > MW07

    If my only criteria was taking them to the gym, I'd get the Bose. If battery life wasn't an issue, I'd get the MW07. If SQ is paramount, MW07 is your best bet. If you need good battery life, get the MTW. If having A+ SQ isn't worth an extra $130, the Bose are fantastic.
    chinmie likes this.
  15. Bartig
    I'm so curious how these sound compared to my beloved QCY QS1 - but I don't think anyone has them too, to compare them right?
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