[nc8000]

Sorry, I pasted the Sony details and it changed the font.

Hmm. Gotta admit I was leaning towards the Sonys. Now to convince myself to get the in ears as opposed to the over ear version...

The over ear has the better ANC, better codec support, much longer battery and can be used wired in a pinch but the in ear is much more portable and cheaper

 

[Heisenberg1895]

but the in ear is much more portable and cheaper

Only by about 40 GBP atm on Amazon uk

 

[nc8000]

Only by about 40 GBP atm on Amazon uk

Still cheaper but you can’t get it yet

 

[Heisenberg1895]

Still cheaper but you can’t get it yet

Ya, still a week or so until release

 

[audiophileriser]

anyone tried sabbat E12?

yup. I liked everything except the sound. The treble is too muffled and rolled off, the mids are not clear enough, and the bass is muddy in my opinion. I just feel like there is not enough clarity. I prefer the sound of the jlab jbuds air, but even those aren't that great compared to my triple driver wired in ears. I would not recommend them if you are an audiophile.

 

[audiophileriser]

Agree that the E12 needs some EQ to remove some of the bass bloat and add a bit more sparkle in the high end frequencies

I agree too. Thats the only reason I hate my sabbat e12s. If they had more clarity, I would love them. I prefer the sound of the jlab jbuds air over the sabbat e12.

 

[nc8000]

How many here intend to use tws for critical listening in quiet surroundings ?

For me tws are for commuting, jogging, gym and so on and in those environments I find that outright sq is much less important than the feature set of the tws.

 

[audiophileriser]

The MTW are good for music and should be getting a firmware update to improve call quality (and case drain issue). If the update is what it's cracked up to be, it may be a compelling option. Presently, however, I would fully recommend the 65t, especially if the calls are business related.

That Is what is stopping me from buying the sennheiser momentum true wireless. The battery life is too low. They need to release a second gen with more features and battery life.

 

[Slater]

How many here intend to use tws for critical listening in quiet surroundings ?

For me tws are for commuting, jogging, gym and so on and in those environments I find that outright sq is much less important than the feature set of the tws.

Totally agree.

 

[actorlife]

How many here intend to use tws for critical listening in quiet surroundings ?

For me tws are for commuting, jogging, gym and so on and in those environments I find that outright sq is much less important than the feature set of the tws.

For me I use it for music and movies, so better have good SQ. I use mine mostly at home or bike rides. Even if I used it all around I'd still like to hear that sparkle and tight bass. Why pay for something just ok when so many choices with good SQ and chi-fi fills those areas. Sure better quality with wired, but this is a convenience.

 

[SuperLuigi]

How many here intend to use tws for critical listening in quiet surroundings ?

For me tws are for commuting, jogging, gym and so on and in those environments I find that outright sq is much less important than the feature set of the tws.

I couldn't agree more. TWS are about convenience first for me. Gym, comutting, walking, errands, TWS work great. But when it's movie time, or listening to music in a quiet environment, I have much better options than any TWS.

I'd love to find a pair of budget TWS that does ambient noise as well. Makes running errands and comutting so much safer.

 

[FYLegend]

How does YTOM T1/Wavefun 3 compare to Lypertek Tevi?

 

[hifi80sman]

How many here intend to use tws for critical listening in quiet surroundings ?

For me tws are for commuting, jogging, gym and so on and in those environments I find that outright sq is much less important than the feature set of the tws.

Legit "critical listening", no, but I do find myself reaching for one of my TWS' for general recreational listening around the house. Being free of the wires is great, and when it's hot, they're more comfortable than admittedly better sounding wireless over-ears. I can get to an enjoyable baseline with my TWS', so anything beyond that is extra cheese for me.

I still have a lot of wired stuff I like, but hey, I go through phases.

 

[clerkpalmer]

Agree with others re noise floor and hiss on the Sony’s. It’s not bad and typical for ANC. Question, how do you turn ANC off in the app? Thanks.

 

[jasonb]

How many here intend to use tws for critical listening in quiet surroundings ?

For me tws are for commuting, jogging, gym and so on and in those environments I find that outright sq is much less important than the feature set of the tws.

Agreed, my HD650 sounds better but sometimes I still use my Galaxy Buds around the house just because they are convenient.