Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[Dellsson]

@clerkpalmer - yeah living with it for now but do have accident protection I purchased just for this that I'll likely invoke at some point if that crack gets worse.

On a different but related topic, while I like the design/finish on the M&D pouch it's just a tad small and can't close completely thus allowing in gunk/dust etc. which is the last thing that super polished case needs...

I had an old Phiaton case lying around and am now using that instead as it's just slightly larger and completely encloses the case offering slightly better protection. Not crazy about the finish (suede-like feeling) but it does the job well:

That's actually quite wierd. The pouch is same for me and everytime I see it I wonder how they could fail with that. Looks like an old vagina

 

[clerkpalmer]

Looks like an old vagina

I just spit my coffee out laughing.

 

[howdy]

Ah well I finally gave in to the desire and ordered a pair of MW07; I’ll either sell the pair I don’t keep between the MTW and the MW07 if definitely prefer one over the other, or I’ll keep one pair synced to the phone and the other pair synced to my watch, if I end up undecided on which one I like better. They should arrive on Tuesday in my office if all goes well (first time having something sent to my office instead of my house).

Is it fair to say that the nozzles are wider than MTW’s? Are they closer in size to the nozzles on the 1More Triple Drivers? Hoping I won’t need to stock up on yet another size of tips to play with.

-Ed

You'll probably end up keeping both. They are both great in their own way, I like to listen to both when I get a chance. I have Employee reviews to do at work and they generally take a lot of time and my employees know to leave me alone when I have my headphones on so maybe I'll have some good listening time for the next few weeks.

 

[clerkpalmer]

You'll probably end up keeping both. They are both great in their own way, I like to listen to both when I get a chance. I have Employee reviews to do at work and they generally take a lot of time and my employees know to leave me alone when I have my headphones on so maybe I'll have some good listening time for the next few weeks.

This is what I decided as well. I run them both. As an aside, my Senns suffered from battery drain and connecting while in the case. I sent them back to Senn last week. They were very responsive. No hassle. Mailed them on Thursday, and new ones arrived today. That said, I am concered that its a design issue at this point as I've had 2 MTW with the same issue. We will see if the new ones are any better. But great customer service. In contrast, my Jabra 65T failed and it has been a miserable experience. Jabra support sucks. They require you to communicate via email and it takes them days if not more than a week to respond. My headset stopped working 3 weeks ago and they have yet to approve an RMA. I truly hate them and will never buy another product from them again. The entire process is designed to make me give up. I finally filed a dispute with PayPal on the grounds that they refuse to honor their warranty. Paypal will cover me. Stay away from Jabra.

 

[hifi80sman]

For those that are interested, B&O E8 Lightning Deal at Amazon.com for $149.99. Had to order the Gray. At $149, had to. What's also curious, is the listing for the Black version is noted as "Discontinued by the Manufacturer", while the Gray is not. I assume this is because version 2.0 already has a Black color option, while the Gray does not have a 2.0 sibling.

Also, from what I can tell, the earbuds themselves are exactly the same, just in different colors. The only change is the case, but for $200 more, I think I'll pass. The 2.0 case is reported to be $200 separately, so if you really wanted to, you could get this and then the case later and you'd have an extra case for the same price as if you were to just buy the 2.0 now (will be released on 2/14).

 

[howdy]

For those that are interested, B&O E8 Lightning Deal at Amazon.com for $149.99. Had to order the Gray. At $149, had to. What's also curious, is the listing for the Black version is noted as "Discontinued by the Manufacturer", while the Gray is not. I assume this is because version 2.0 already has a Black color option, while the Gray does not have a 2.0 sibling.

Also, from what I can tell, the earbuds themselves are exactly the same, just in different colors. The only change is the case, but for $200 more, I think I'll pass. The 2.0 case is reported to be $200 separately, so if you really wanted to, you could get this and then the case later and you'd have an extra case for the same price as if you were to just buy the 2.0 now (will be released on 2/14).

Thats a Great deal! I was rocking mine on Saturday.

 

[hifi80sman]

Thats a Great deal! I was rocking mine on Saturday.

The build of the earbud itself is really nice, I just hope this one doesn't have any drop out issues! I've never had a product with so many variances from unit to unit, not only with sound, but also connection. I've returned so many I'm sure my photo has been circulated throughout Best Buy. Time to put that blonde wig to good use!

 

[mikp]

The spinfit tips expand the sound stage and frequency range a bit, and also make them more resolving. On the flip side seems make me more fatigue for long-time listening. The fit is perfect, though, and fit into the case without any issue.

Got my assortment of spinfits,100,145 and 155. 145 and 155 fits the mavin, dont understand the hype but these fit good in my ear. Have a box of ali and stock tips, so far these ifts the best so far.

Kind of like the boomy foam on the mavin, but not the fiddling around after taking them out to talk to people.

 

[howdy]

The build of the earbud itself is really nice, I just hope this one doesn't have any drop out issues! I've never had a product with so many variances from unit to unit, not only with sound, but also connection. I've returned so many I'm sure my photo has been circulated throughout Best Buy. Time to put that blonde wig to good use!

Just like your Avatar, that would be hilarious. Everyone would be like, hay, it's David Lee Roth. Get the guy what ever He wants.

 

[Bob24]

The B&O E8 2.0 are available for pre order on Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bang-Olufsen-Wireless-Bluetooth-Charging-Black/dp/B07MHJ28YM

Hard to say for sure, but it looks like to me the case might be the only change. Maybe they should be called 1.1 rather than 2.0 if I am correct

 

[hifi80sman]

Just like your Avatar, that would be hilarious. Everyone would be like, hay, it's David Lee Roth. Get the guy what ever He wants.

My "Avatar"?! That's a photo I took for a shoot in '83. I have short hair now.

 

[Slater]

My "Avatar"?! That's a photo I took for a shoot in '83. I have short hair now.

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[tomscy2000]

Just got the Nuarl NT01AX....OMG, my mind is blown away by them at the moment. They look absolutely stunning and sound. They remind me of my of my ER4XR, it's hard to believe that they are wireless...tons of details, a realistic soundstage, and a bass slightly above pure neutral. Listening to live albums now to test them properly, and you can hear the reverb in the halls they are playing. Excellent separation between the singers and the instruments. Everything sounds beautiful and realistic.

That said, the box they came in can go to hell. They were fixed to thin cardboard, and I accidentally ripped them out, and I am being paranoid about damaging the nozzle cosmetically. I shouldn't worry about that, since it is not much worse than pulling off a tight eartip, is it?! The carrying box is also meh. It has a small button that opens a latch and feels kind of cheap. The button is super hard to push with long-ish nails too. that being said it is small. If you have any questions ask me. I will probably get a better review up after playing with for a while.

Edit: Can't stop listening...Nuarl motto is natural and neutral, HDSS is a certification that the sound has as little coloring as possible. That is my preffered sound sig, so keep that in mind, but based on first few hours I like the sound of these even more than the MW07s I demo-ed a few weeks ago...amazing high mids and highs, great bass when called for (Killshot bass drop sounded amazing), and very nice detailed mids. The interface is clunky so far (not used to it), but I love the sound coming out of this tiny driver!

Have you heard the NT01b? I bought my wife the 01b a while ago and thought the SQ was not bad at all --- pleasant and balanced. I've heard that the 01AX is identical to the 01b in SQ (it also has HDSS), and that the only difference is battery life and dual sided voice communication, rather than single sided.

There's also now AVIOT, which seems to be the same type of OEM unit as the NUARL, but with flashier colors/design: http://aviot.jp/

 

[RobinFood]

Have you heard the NT01b? I bought my wife the 01b a while ago and thought the SQ was not bad at all --- pleasant and balanced. I've heard that the 01AX is identical to the 01b in SQ (it also has HDSS), and that the only difference is battery life and dual sided voice communication, rather than single sided.

There's also now AVIOT, which seems to be the same type of OEM unit as the NUARL, but with flashier colors/design: http://aviot.jp/

I haven't tried the other ones, but the 01b is the same except without the new aptx chip that is supposed to be more stable too.
That said, I don't notice much of a difference between the aptx and aac connection.

I didn't try the new Aviot though, it was released this Saturday. Early reviews seem to say it has connection problems.
I contacted Nuarll about the beeps, they said it is a known issue under investigation now, and they hope to fix it with a firmware update sometime in the future...

 

[Slater]

Connection problems seem to be the issue with the majority of TWS earphones.

Which is understandable given the difficulty in engineering TWS.

Many have partial or full aluminum shells. They are physically limited in size (forcing compromises with regard to antenna size/design). Being stuck in the ear doesn’t help, because the human body absorbs 2.4ghz microwave radiation. And they not only have to maintain connectivity with the source but also one another.