Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[wind016]

if the TFZ X1 is based on the Mifo o5 pro version, i personally think the Mifo Standard version is a much fuller sounding product. the pro version (BA driver) is really limited on the bass and treble extension

Thanks for the response! I just love the feel of The Fragrant Zither headphones. My Kings feel like they cost way more than $70. I know the X1 is a rebrand, but shoot I'd give it a try even if it's just for the looks. Digging the blue metal. I know the Chinese have been killing it in wired IEMs lately. Seems like they are killing it in truly wireless tech too. What's going on???

 

[howdy]

As luck may have it I did receive the Symbios today and they are to hard and do not seal at all for me in regards to the MW07. Back to trying something else. I do have some different Spinfits coming Monday.

 

[chinmie]

Thanks for the response! I just love the feel of The Fragrant Zither headphones. My Kings feel like they cost way more than $70. I know the X1 is a rebrand, but shoot I'd give it a try even if it's just for the looks. Digging the blue metal. I know the Chinese have been killing it in wired IEMs lately. Seems like they are killing it in truly wireless tech too. What's going on???

i had a TFZ King and the King Pro once, and i really like the TFZ "house sound", that's why I'm confused why they went with rebranding using the Mifo Pro (BA driver) version. the Standard is more in line with their usual product: Bassy, warm, smooth but detailed treble. the Pro version is more like Etymotic ER4PT but with less sparkle on the treble

 

[chinmie]

As luck may have it I did receive the Symbios today and they are to hard and do not seal at all for me in regards to the MW07. Back to trying something else. I do have some different Spinfits coming Monday.

did you get the ones with foam core or the peel version? i use my Symbio like regular silicone tips by removing the foams

 

[howdy]

did you get the ones with foam core or the peel version? i use my Symbio like regular silicone tips by removing the foams

They have the foam in it. I will try and remove the foam, thanks for the tip.

 

[Edward Ng]

They have the foam in it. I will try and remove the foam, thanks for the tip.

This is pretty interesting; after seeing how the Symbio tips are assembled, I decided to take the cored-out Comply foams and reduce their length by cutting them down with scissors and reinserting them into the SpinFit tips and now they are supremely comfortable. The trick was that if the foam reaches out to or past the edge of the silicone mushroom, it is extremely uncomfortable. By cutting them down, the foam doesn’t press the edges against the ear canals, feeling much more comfortable. Had I not seen the way the Symbio tips are designed, it would never have occurred to me to cut the foam back to fix this comfort issue with my own home-made hybrid tips.

-Ed

 

[cheesesteak]

Anyone using the RHA trueconnect, that is able to post some impressions compared to the Jabra Elite 65T. Heard the Jabra once and I wasn’t satisfied with it. The MW07 and MTW are too expensive for me. I was satisfied with the audio latency of the AirPods but it was somewhat trashy in terms of audio quality. Thanks so much.

 

[hifi80sman]

Does anyone own or know anything about the TREBLAB X5?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C4WCPG6

It has a long shell (similar to older Bluetooth cell phone headsets). This allows for a larger battery and also microphone placement closer to the mouth, which should translate into excellent phone call performance.

As far as sound, it uses beryllium drivers, which should in theory provide good sonic performance (assuming they didn’t s few the tuning up).

It sells for about $60 on Amazon and $70 on Newegg, but Newegg is going to be putting it on flash sale next week.

Thanks in advance for any help you guys can provide

They sound legitimately good. Clean, clear presentation with some added bass energy. Honestly, they sound better than the 65t and are a solid TWE option. Based off memeory, the call quality was good and everyone said they heard me fine (office setting). I ended up returning them, however, because I wasn’t a fan of the look. Other than that, they’re one of the better options at that price.

 

[RobinFood]

I went to the store to try the TWZ-1000 today by Zero Audio. I was seriously considering it instead of the NT01AX, because of the Class 1 power Bluetooth in it.

In the end, the sound was not comparable. The sound didn't get as loud, mids were muddier, highs were less extended, buttons push it deeper in your ear canal.

I also compared again with the MW07, and found their tuning and details to be really similar! I probably couldn't tell them apart in a blind test. Maybe a hint more bass on the MW07, but the mids and details/imaging/soundstage sounded really similar. The highs are also both well extended without being sibilant. Mids are super clear, neither forward, nor back, and very revealing. Bad recordings sound bad. Old songs that have the record-player sound has that sound augmented to the point of being annoying. Boosted bass on rap songs is very noticeable. Bass decay is a little slow next to the ER4 (not surprising). ER4 has the mids up front compared to the NT01AX, and a little more clarity. It is especially noticeable in hand claps and finger snaps. Violins and pianos sound more natural on the NT01AX though, and classical or movie soundtracks sound absolutely amazing on the NT01AX. Recent pop with a lot of voice work sometimes sounds grainy and annoying.

I started wearing my Shanling m0 in my shirt pocket when walking in the big city or at the train station, and haven't had a single drop-out since (about 20 cm away from both buds). In my pants pockets, it gets a lot of drops in a busy town, but none in my small home city.

I had a great experience with the Nuarl company as well, I emailed them about a missing pouch in the instructions, and they sent it right away. They also confirmed that they would personally take care of any issues for warranty even though I bought from a re-seller on Amazon, as long as I was in Japan. Overall, I think they are the best true wireless has to offer, along with the Mavins. MW07 sounds solid, but after using the Nuarls for a while, I might have a problem with the battery time.

 

[clerkpalmer]

I went to the store to try the TWZ-1000 today by Zero Audio. I was seriously considering it instead of the NT01AX, because of the Class 1 power Bluetooth in it.

In the end, the sound was not comparable. The sound didn't get as loud, mids were muddier, highs were less extended, buttons push it deeper in your ear canal.

I also compared again with the MW07, and found their tuning and details to be really similar! I probably couldn't tell them apart in a blind test. Maybe a hint more bass on the MW07, but the mids and details/imaging/soundstage sounded really similar. The highs are also both well extended without being sibilant. Mids are super clear, neither forward, nor back, and very revealing. Bad recordings sound bad. Old songs that have the record-player sound has that sound augmented to the point of being annoying. Boosted bass on rap songs is very noticeable. Bass decay is a little slow next to the ER4 (not surprising). ER4 has the mids up front compared to the NT01AX, and a little more clarity. It is especially noticeable in hand claps and finger snaps. Violins and pianos sound more natural on the NT01AX though, and classical or movie soundtracks sound absolutely amazing on the NT01AX. Recent pop with a lot of voice work sometimes sounds grainy and annoying.

I started wearing my Shanling m0 in my shirt pocket when walking in the big city or at the train station, and haven't had a single drop-out since (about 20 cm away from both buds). In my pants pockets, it gets a lot of drops in a busy town, but none in my small home city.

I had a great experience with the Nuarl company as well, I emailed them about a missing pouch in the instructions, and they sent it right away. They also confirmed that they would personally take care of any issues for warranty even though I bought from a re-seller on Amazon, as long as I was in Japan. Overall, I think they are the best true wireless has to offer, along with the Mavins. MW07 sounds solid, but after using the Nuarls for a while, I might have a problem with the battery time.

These do not appear to be available in the us?

 

[clerkpalmer]

Anyone using the RHA trueconnect, that is able to post some impressions compared to the Jabra Elite 65T. Heard the Jabra once and I wasn’t satisfied with it. The MW07 and MTW are too expensive for me. I was satisfied with the audio latency of the AirPods but it was somewhat trashy in terms of audio quality. Thanks so much.

The true connect is definitely a step up in sq from the 65t assuming you are using an iPhone. If you are on android it might be slightly different.

 

[Dcell7]

More fans of the brilliant 25 dollar option QCY QS1 here?

I bought the QCY T1C last december. They have been working well though i don’t use them much. Probably 2 hours a week. They sound ok and no problems wth the fit.

 

[srinivasvignesh]

The true connect is definitely a step up in sq from the 65t assuming you are using an iPhone. If you are on android it might be slightly different.

I am using the TrueConnect with my note 8. It uses AAC and the sound quality is definitely good, at least for TWE. With my trueconnects, maybe once in a month (around 2% of the time), there is crazy sound movement from the left to right. If that happens, I would need to put it back in the case, and then take it out. That seems to work and resolve any issues. Overall, pleased with it.

 

[webvan]

MTW review here (in French with some charts) https://www.lesnumeriques.com/casque-audio/sennheiser-momentum-true-wireless-p45779/test.html
They think the SQ is as good as on the WF1000-x And that the mics are fine for calls...

 

[howdy]

After Lots of Tip rolling I believe I found the right one for the MW07, the Spinfit Cp145. They are providing a great seal and are very comfortable. The bass now hits really hard and I'm not losing any of the high or mids. I'm very happy with them now!