Xinze
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This is been discussed in depth by some of us. It's probably not changing anything at all except Dr. Dre and Jimmy Iovine make more money because they don't need to split profits with Monster.
Can you link me the discussion please?
Alright so,
I couldn't find an intro thread, so I guess here's to my first post in the best forum ever.
First of all, just wanted to say that this is the best thread I've ever seen. And I've been around quite a lot of forums.
Second of all, I'm a junior at Northern Illinois University, so as expected, I see about a truck-load of Beats per day. Pisses me right the hell off. I don't usually talk with any of the poor, unfortunate souls though, because I'm usually just walking between classes when I spot the little corporate stains adorning people's heads.
Very recently, a classmate of mine showed up one day, suddenly wearing a pair of dark blue Pro Beats. After I scowled internally, I asked her why she had gotten them. She replied with a ditzy giggle that a family member had bought them for her as a gift. She said she didn't know anything about headphones and that they 'look cute' so she loves them.
I have been noticing this tread a lot, recently: people receiving Beats as gifts. On one hand, I don't want to blame them because they didn't make the decision to buy them. On the other hand, it still makes me a bit upset that some uninformed parent/brother/friend/whoever wasted around $300 on what they thought was the best headphone money could buy.
Eventually I asked her if I could borrow them for just a little while one day before class, because honestly, I had never ever put Beats around my ears. I'm smarter than that. But hey, you know, curiosity killed the fox and I just had to see why they were perceived as the best thing ever ever. I just had my 160 GB iPod on me to compare them to my Allen & Heath Xone XD-53's, but I don't think that mattered too terribly much. I already knew I disliked them from the first few minutes of listening (actually had to ask why they weren't working...the stupid 'noise-cancellation' switch was off and I had never dealt with that before). After abut a half hour of comparing I handed them back and made a few short comments about how the bass simply drowned out the mids and highs, and just sounded extremely muddy overall. Off course, she had no idea what any of that meant and so I didn't bother letting her try my cans. I knew I wouldn't reach her. Off she went to the world of Katy Perry and Kesha. Gag me.
And hey, while I'm at it, why not throw in a little Best Buy story too? Every time I stop into Best Buy I always hang around the headphone section and wait for someone to get curious about the Beats. At this point, I normally engage in friendly conversation and inform them of the Beats' overpricing and sub-par quality. I normally make a few headphone suggestions of my own, and otherwise tell them that simply doing a little online research will yield a whole world of awesome headphone possibilities. They usually walk away intrigued that there are other headphones that exist besides the Beats, ahah.
So yeah! I'm super excited; my ATH-Pro700MK2 Anniversary Editions arrive tomorrow and I am dying to wear those around and garner some attention and hopefully get people interested in talking to me about great headphones.
A Xone 53 man. Good choice indeed.
Hey, thanks, man. I've been lurking these forums for a little less than a week now (lord knows how I hadn't found it earlier, knowing my Audiofile history), but I have never seen anyone mention the Xone's before I just did here. Very very solid cans. I used them to 'upgrade' from my ATH-M50's, and I actually prefer the Xone's. Amazingly tight bass response; much clearer mids/highs. They're technically DJ phones, but use them for producing and recreational listening, and they've gotten some serious mileage.
You're spot on with SNSD (Girls Generation) and SM Entertainment's formula in regards. Not like that SM gave out the secret, but you can clearly tell by the performance and singing (and profiles as-well), just who is designed to do what. This particular fact is one of many reasons this group receives a lot of hate and antis and critique. For the fact that they were made as opposed to true artists. Made as in SM scouted majority of these girls (7/9) at the age of 12-13 and started grooming them and cross training them on everything, dancing, acting, singing and of course, performing. Prior to the groups debut, each girl was doing something else; one was an MC and a spokesperson for some companies. Another TV commercial, another a model, another Dancer that goes and competes (HyoYeon). This is also why many call them 'Plastic Generation'. Though personally I could care less, they're a group now, and they're doing really well, and that's the bottom line. And I think SM really nailed the formula and the right talent for this particular group. Most definitely landed a gold mine here. I personally find it hard to argue that SM is solely behind the success of SNSD, after all, concept, planning and grooming is definitely one aspect, and very important one. However, pulling it off is a completely different story.
As for singing/performing ratio. This is basically the formula I see. Taeyeon is the leader, she has the most versed vocal range and best singing abilities. Second to her is Jessica, which comes close to vocal range, but not just there yet. Often times they alternate solos (namely in live and concert performances). Third to them is Sohyun. She has good vocals and good dancing skills, and is arguably the most natural looking beauty of the group (she's also the youngest). And forth is Tiffany. This is the 4 vocal leaders. Then you have diversion between lead dancers, which comprised of Hyoyeon/Yuri and Yoona. Hyoyeon is the best of them all on a technical level, but short on vocal range. Yuri is less on technical, but strong on sex appeal. Yoona's vocal range is slightly above Hyoyeon's and slightly below Yuri's. She is the visual of the group as she embodies the essence of their image. She's drop dead cute and rock solid dancer, both on cuteness and sex appeal. Then finally you have Sunny and Sooyoung. Both have similar vocal range with slight differences, namely in pitch and tone. But in terms of highs and lows, they can replace each-other when needed. Sooyoung is considered the sexiest and sometimes the prettiest. Very tall and very lean looking. Also, many times she's on the front roster of dance routines along with Yoona, Hyoyeon and Yuri. Sunny has a good voice and can reach pitchy highs, but appears to struggle with lows and gets a bit raspy. She's cute, but definitely nothing overly pretty.
Now put them together, the right songs, choreography and routine, and you have a winner. Asides from looks/appeal and dance routines, when I actually listen to them (audio only), I honestly have to give them massive credit for their harmonized performance. When you have one or two singing withing a segment of a song, it's one thing. But when they switch to singing all 9, I honestly don't think I've heard a group singing in better harmonized unison than them. Clearly mistakes happen, but on the general scope, they're near flawless in that department. Good job on SM and good Job SNSD, definitely. Anyone claiming that they have no talent definitely don't know what they're talking about.
P.S. impressive rapping from Bieber.