This is exactly why I stated that each genre needs to be taken within its own context when discussing it, whether it be a serious discussion of the artist's musical talent (instrument playing and singing), or just shooting the schit around. And I absolutely disagree on the 'BS' comment in regards. For starters, it question begs the entire concept of Pop music industry. This BS or cheesiness you refer to is an inherit part of the pop industry. Granted that some artists and groups utilize it more than others, but nonetheless, it's still a part of it. As for Rap/Hip Hop and the likes, guess what, musical talent, rapping, song choice, lyrics and delivery is part of the whole. What do you think Delivery of the music is all about? If one rapper embodies the nature of the music in his songs and delivery than another rapper, that is a skill that directly effects the whole sound of the rap track. So I say again, different genres within a different context. The serious musical discussion as you present it appears to be subjective to acoustics and maybe soft music where the presence of the artist's attitude and personality isn't required to be as prominent as in Pop or Rap and Hip-Hop, and for that extent, rock music genre.
What you're saying is no different than stating that when discussing Heavy Metal or House music for example, Pop music has very little relevance. But of course this is nothing new. But I still don't see why people can't discuss Pop genre on whole as a serious music discussion, if they truly are discussing Pop music.
