Final Audio Design Impressions and Discussion Thread
Aug 26, 2013 at 5:10 AM Post #3,031 of 11,644
Hi music,

I had the same albums by Sylvian / Fripp.
Got both First Day and Damage in '94 i think.

If you love Sylvian, please check his great album called Secret of The Beehive.
Organic and warm, what a great voice.

If love Sylvian works, try his collaborator Ryuichi Sakamoto. His 1996 album is a personal favorite. His known track is Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence



Doing a search I came up with this one copy: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00005NDVK/ref=dp_olp_collectible?ie=UTF8&condition=collectible


It is indeed the original 1994 release and, though the photo in the link shows the current cover, the real thing (they're selling) looks like this (with the black & red cover I posted yesterday found inside):




(click on photo)
 
Aug 26, 2013 at 5:37 AM Post #3,032 of 11,644
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Hi music,

I had the same albums by Sylvian / Fripp.
Got both First Day and Damage in '94 i think.

If you love Sylvian, please check his great album called Secret of The Beehive.
Organic and warm, what a great voice.

If love Sylvian works, try his collaborator Ryuichi Sakamoto. His 1996 album is a personal favorite. His known track is Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence

 
Hi lescanadiens,
 
D Sylvian is one of my favourite musicians, and Secrets of the Beehive (SotB) one of my favourite albums of his, along with Gone to Earth and Brilliant Trees. The last track on my 1987 edition of SotB has the best version of "Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence" I've heard, but in the album it's called "Forbidden Colours" (they substituted that excellent song and version with a completely different track, "Promise (The Cult of Eurydice)", on the 2003 remastered edition)

Here's one of my favourite tracks from SotB, which sounds great through the 160Xs — in it Sakamoto's short string arrangement gives this track a brilliant, very unique flavour: http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/When+Poets+Dreamed+Of+Angels/4zzDuJ?src=5
 
Aug 26, 2013 at 8:46 AM Post #3,033 of 11,644
Hi music,
 
Speaking of Ryuichi, please try this on PF IX / X.
Sublime!
 
Ryuichi Sakamoto: Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mfyCI82lWM&list=PLDF8F6251C0F95E46
 
1996 Album:
http://www.amazon.com/1996-Ryuichi-Sakamoto/dp/B0000015LJ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377521077&sr=8-1&keywords=ryuichi+sakamoto+1996
 
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Hi lescanadiens,
 
D Sylvian is one of my favourite musicians, and Secrets of the Beehive (SotB) one of my favourite albums of his, along with Gone to Earth and Brilliant Trees. The last track on my 1987 edition of SotB has the best version of "Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence" I've heard, but in the album it's called "Forbidden Colours" (they substituted that excellent song and version with a completely different track, "Promise (The Cult of Eurydice)", on the 2003 remastered edition)

Here's one of my favourite tracks from SotB, which sounds great through the 160Xs — in it Sakamoto's short string arrangement gives this track a brilliant, very unique flavour: http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/When+Poets+Dreamed+Of+Angels/4zzDuJ?src=5

 
Aug 26, 2013 at 11:32 AM Post #3,034 of 11,644
This so uncanny...............I was just listening to "Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence" OST yesterday, and then swiftly moved on to Ryuichi Sakamoto's "Playing the Piano" album 
 

 
 
This sounds so beautiful on the PX-IX
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Aug 26, 2013 at 12:10 PM Post #3,035 of 11,644
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This so uncanny...............I was just listening to "Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence" OST yesterday, and then swiftly moved on to Ryuichi Sakamoto's "Playing the Piano" album 
 

 
 
This sounds so beautiful on the PX-IX
size]

 
Simply magnificent! Doesn't even need to be heard on the PFs to figure this out.
The brilliance of the piano that's so emotional and moving when playing alone.
 
Aug 26, 2013 at 1:32 PM Post #3,036 of 11,644
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Hi music,
 
Speaking of Ryuichi, please try this on PF IX / X.
Sublime!
 
Ryuichi Sakamoto: Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mfyCI82lWM&list=PLDF8F6251C0F95E46
 
1996 Album:
http://www.amazon.com/1996-Ryuichi-Sakamoto/dp/B0000015LJ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377521077&sr=8-1&keywords=ryuichi+sakamoto+1996
 

 
Thanks for mentioning that album, I did listen to it many years ago.
 
Okay, here's the thing, and I hope this isn't taken the wrong way. It's a a very nice, likeable album but most of it does nothing to me. There's very good playing and some pretty good ideas, but that's about it. Again, I find this quite often with 'accomplished' musicians who are easily able to come up with nice music—they have the chops—even very nice music that will no doubt please and move many people, and even bring them to tears. R Sakamoto is a very talented musician / artist / person, but his music only reaches to a certain level within me.

"Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence" is a nice track, but just that, a nice track, to me—by itself the track doesn't do much for me. However, "Forbidden Colours" is an entirely different beast to these ears, as it contains elements of real music, genuine creativity—the communion of two artists, a true collaboration, not unlike that of Lennon & McCartney on several / many Beatles songs. I find "Forbidden Colours" far superior musically, the intro itself (the first 35 seconds, and specially the first 15) already hinting at a very different musical adventure: http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/Forbidden+Colours/55g5xs?src=5
 
Aug 26, 2013 at 4:49 PM Post #3,037 of 11,644
Take a piece of real music (no matter how obscure or well-known it may be). Bow to it if you're able to recognise the sheer brilliance of real music that may have originated somewhere else. Then, maybe one day, if you're reasonably competent at playing your instrument, play, and play some more—play as in the act if having fun, like children often do—experiment, and then maybe humbly attempt to do 'your own thing' with that piece of real music. This one sounds pretty good through the PFs: http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/Chromatic+Fantasy/4MWtvv?src=5 (Note that it is not RF who plays here but another member of this very short-lived string quintet)
 
Aug 26, 2013 at 5:08 PM Post #3,038 of 11,644
Pink Floyd - dark side of the moon sounds lovely through the PF

Flac through iPod > silver lod > JDS Labs O2 > PF
 
Aug 26, 2013 at 10:00 PM Post #3,039 of 11,644
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Take a piece of real music (no matter how obscure or well-known it may be). Bow to it if you're able to recognise the sheer brilliance of real music that may have originated somewhere else. Then, maybe one day, if you're reasonably competent at playing your instrument, play, and play some more—play as in the act if having fun, like children often do—experiment, and then maybe humbly attempt to do 'your own thing' with that piece of real music. This one sounds pretty good through the PFs: http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/Chromatic+Fantasy/4MWtvv?src=5 (Note that it is not RF who plays here but another member of this very short-lived string quintet)

 
That is a wonderful piece. Thank you for sharing!!
 

 
 
My session tonight was fairly psychedelic.
 

 
Aug 27, 2013 at 10:42 AM Post #3,043 of 11,644
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Tonight's entertainment, brought to you by the letter V.


 
Without the picture that sentence would have been very interesting indeed.
 
Aug 27, 2013 at 11:07 AM Post #3,044 of 11,644
I'm finding the 1601SB to be more of a chameleon in comparison to the 1602SS and 1602SC. Trying the various tips included in the package, I find the sound changes more dramatically compared to what I was able to achieve through my experimentation with the fix-tipped 1602 models, even when using tips over their metal flanges.
65pFOd
 
Aug 27, 2013 at 2:16 PM Post #3,045 of 11,644
Even more pictures:



 

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