FiiO X5 2nd gen Impressions and Discussion thread
May 27, 2016 at 4:21 AM Post #5,341 of 7,088
D2P / DoP: D2P stands for DSD to PCM, i.e. converting DSD to PCM before exporting through the S/PDIF digital output, which is the old option available. DoP stands for DSD over PCM. This basically means that the output stream is nominally a PCM stream of e.g. 24bit/176.4kHz, but that the actual data being sent is in DSD format. Sort of like modems sending computer data over a telephone line (if anybody still remembers that), the S/PDIF connection designed for PCM (like the telephone line) is being repurposed to carry a different signal (DSD). If a non-DoP aware device picks up the DoP stream it would output digital rubbish much like what picking up the phone to a fax / modem transmission sounds like, and for much the same reasons. A DoP aware device picking up the DoP stream (that's almost all DSD-capable DACs out there) would receive, decode and play back DSD music data exactly as if the transmission were in DSD format. DoP output should be considered equivalent to native DSD digital output and is indeed the predominant method of natively transmitting DSD data between devices.


If they haven't already done so, I hope FiiO puts up this information somewhere prominently. Otherwise they're letting hard coding effort go to waste... :rolleyes:


As being complete NEW to this Hi Res Audio World - Please let me know ;

IF X5 2nd Gen docked over K5 and playing DSD files - Which stream coming out K5's Headphone Jack D2P or DoP

Or Native DSD Output ?


D2P and DoP only refer to digital audio transmission methods.

Since you're asking about the analog headphone output, the answer should be "native DSD output". Because the X5 has always decoded DSD natively in its DAC on the way to the headphone out. It's only when it is required to pass the digital signal to another device instead that things get complicated.
 
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May 27, 2016 at 5:20 AM Post #5,342 of 7,088
D2P and DoP only refer to digital audio transmission methods.

Since you're asking about the analog headphone output, the answer should be "native DSD output". Because the X5 has always decoded DSD natively in its DAC on the way to the headphone out. It's only when it is required to pass the digital signal to another device instead that things get complicated.

 
Thanks for the input - I doubted because the Headphone Out is situated not X5's body instead another device which is K5.
 
But now it is clear - Thanks.
 
May 31, 2016 at 8:00 AM Post #5,344 of 7,088
I picked one up . . . I know its a redundant question around here but why do i do this to myself!?!?! The X5 was just fine . . . 

Will spend some time with each but initial impression is they are both great.
It doesn't matter, they can co- exist as I use my X3II for Flac recordings, mainly from Bandcamp, and my Apple, Dragonfly set up is for my iTunes library. I am happy with both of them and so should you:blush:
 
Jun 1, 2016 at 8:00 AM Post #5,346 of 7,088

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Jun 1, 2016 at 10:07 AM Post #5,347 of 7,088
 

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Jun 1, 2016 at 11:05 AM Post #5,348 of 7,088
Is there a means to search the contents of me FiiO X5ii? I read somewhere about holding the "shortcut" button down and then something comes up to help search, but I can't find that info or that screen. My X5ii has the FW 2.0 updated software, which seems to be the most recent. I have about 8,600 songs in it, and so scrolling alphabetically through song titles or even album titles takes Foreer!

Thanks!
 
Jun 1, 2016 at 2:24 PM Post #5,349 of 7,088
Is there a means to search the contents of me FiiO X5ii? I read somewhere about holding the "shortcut" button down and then something comes up to help search, but I can't find that info or that screen. My X5ii has the FW 2.0 updated software, which seems to be the most recent. I have about 8,600 songs in it, and so scrolling alphabetically through song titles or even album titles takes Foreer!

Thanks!


I'm using firmware 1.21, but maybe this will help: you first must choose the category you want to search in (All Songs, Artist, Album, &c.) or search by sd card (search by folder). Then hold down the top left button for a second or three. A banner will appear across the center of the screen with the alphabet (I'm using English, so I'm unsure about other, non Roman letters/symbols). You can scroll through the letters and tap the center button to choose. The bottom right button allows you to switch between letters and numbers. 
 
Jun 1, 2016 at 7:12 PM Post #5,350 of 7,088
 
I'm using firmware 1.21, but maybe this will help: you first must choose the category you want to search in (All Songs, Artist, Album, &c.) or search by sd card (search by folder). Then hold down the top left button for a second or three. A banner will appear across the center of the screen with the alphabet (I'm using English, so I'm unsure about other, non Roman letters/symbols). You can scroll through the letters and tap the center button to choose. The bottom right button allows you to switch between letters and numbers. 

It WORKS!  Thanks!
 
Jun 5, 2016 at 4:35 AM Post #5,352 of 7,088
Jun 5, 2016 at 9:22 PM Post #5,354 of 7,088
  yes ,the d listening impressions I am very interested.

 
I actually did some side-by-side listening impressions of both the X5ii and the X7 in my review for the latter here: http://www.head-fi.org/products/fiio-x7/reviews/15045#user_Non-volume_matched_comparisons
 
But you should probably also see what others have to say - only going by my opinion probably isn't the best thing to do.
 
Jun 5, 2016 at 9:25 PM Post #5,355 of 7,088
I actually did some side-by-side listening impressions of both the X5ii and the X7 in my review for the latter here: http://www.head-fi.org/products/fiio-x7/reviews/15045#user_Non-volume_matched_comparisons

But you should probably also see what others have to say - only going by my opinion probably isn't the best thing to do.


Similar to my thoughts when I reviewed the X7. It sits well in it's price bracket compared to the X5ii. The X5ii isn't bad, but the X7 is better.
 

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