[Swollen17]

I've had mine for about a year now, and have had zero issues. I've never heard of any reliability issues, but since I didn't have any there was no reason for me to look into it. I have upgraded to an E17 for most of my use, but if I go somewhere and don't want to take the extra bulk (mountain biking) I take the E6. Not as good as the E17, but in a pinch it brings out a lot of extra sound in my Beyer 880, and 990 (both 250 ohm) vs. my unamped phone, and helps my IEM's quite a bit too. In case anyone wonder, no the Beyer's don't go mountain biking with me.

 

[zugu]

Hi,
 
I currently use a Fiio E6 with a pair of Vsonic GR06 IEMs, and a Samsung Android smartphone as a source, with great results.
 
I will soon upgrade to Vsonic GR07 Bass Edition, and I don't know whether I should also buy the Fiio E12 or stick to my E6 amp.
 
What do you guys recommend?

 

[marko93101]

Quote:

Hi,
 
I currently use a Fiio E6 with a pair of Vsonic GR06 IEMs, and a Samsung Android smartphone as a source, with great results.
 
I will soon upgrade to Vsonic GR07 Bass Edition, and I don't know whether I should also buy the Fiio E12 or stick to my E6 amp.
 
What do you guys recommend?

Stick with the E6 till you get the GR07's and then decide. Only you'll really know if they need more power!

 

[Swollen17]

I totally agree. The E6 runs my 250 Ohm Beyers, so it shouldn't have any problem with GR07s, so you don't "need" anything more. Depending on which Samsung phone you have (S3/S4), you might be able to run a DAC with it, and then you could think about the E17 as a DAC/Amp over the E12 Amp. I went tdown the same road a while back, and went with the E17 because of the DAC option.

 

[GregC]

I wanted to let the people know that James responded to a personal message and the failure rate is low on the E6.  Just my luck that it failed after two charges.  Beach camera issued a RMA since it failed less than 30 days after I received it.  I like the size and performance of the E6 if it can last more than a few uses.

 

[Krydel]

Would this be worth getting for my HFI-580s?

 

[Foldedpencil]

So the consensus in this thread back when the E06 first came out was that it did not really benefit when driving Westone 3's from a clip+.  I just got a pair of W4R's that I am running from a Clip Zip, and they just don't sound as natural or spacious from the Clip as they do out of my 8 year old creative X-fi sound card.  Would the E06 (or E11 for that matter) be able to help the Clip get closer to that level?  Or should I just shut up and enjoy my portable rig for now and see what happens with the Fiio X5?
 
I have also been looking at pictures of the RSA Shadow and dreaming about how great the Clip would look sitting on that thing... but the price tag is a bit steep that way...
 

 

[Tanjent]

Yeah...foobar 2000 thru my absolute crap pc and creative ....sounds  better than Clip +
 
Amps dont improve SQ...

 

[jump3r]

i would not say that dude.. amp will surely crisp the highs and will make the lows fuller.. 

 

[Tanjent]

I would because an amp will only boost volume... Maybe if it were driving a higher impedance headphone, it would appear to improve SQ...by giving it the required juice to properly run that headphone.

 

[marko93101]

So what Tangent is saying jump3r is that it's not an improvement in SQ, in fact it's the headphone/IEM being able to perform at their fullest potential with the little extra juice

 

[Tanjent]

Yes ^^ marko

 

[Foldedpencil]

But how can you tell the difference between poor SQ from the DAC (DAP?) and under-preforming headphones?  I thought that some of the problem with a cheap internal amp was not simply lack of volume, but also lack of control over the drivers.
 

 

[Tanjent]

The headphones ohm rating...
and sensitivity 

 

[Foldedpencil]

What is the equation? The Clip Zip output max is 18mW @ 160 Ohms and up to .54 V.  The W4Rs have a sensitivity of 118dB @ 1 mW and an impedance of 31 Ohms.  I only listen at about half volume, so I think they are getting enough power, but what about control?