[Zen21]

Just received my E17 today

Just wondering when I use E17 with Foobar using WSAPI SPDIF Interface

i've changed the settings to 96k 24bit in the fiio properties already  but when I play with Foobar it shows up as 48k 16bit on my Fiio screen. 

does this mean i'm not getting the best sound I can?



sorry just a bit confused lol

 

[bowei006]

 
Quote:

Did anyone know how to fix the Gain at zero?
After using the E17 independently, I found that the gain always reset automatically at 6.

 
That should only happen if you plug it into the E9 or connect something into the dock on the bottom.

 

[bowei006]

 
Quote:

Just received my E17 today

Just wondering when I use E17 with Foobar using WSAPI SPDIF Interface

i've changed the settings to 96k 24bit in the fiio properties already  but when I play with Foobar it shows up as 48k 16bit on my Fiio screen. 

does this mean i'm not getting the best sound I can?



sorry just a bit confused lol

 
Well....unless your tracks are over 44.1KHz @ 16bit then technically...
 
ok to do it while in foobar hit "Ctrl+P" go to "playback" and then the little drop down menu in playback go to "DSP Manager" change the output format to 24bit. Next go to advanced. In Decoding, drop it down and change "Tone/sweep sample rate" to 96000(exactly what I typed). If your computer ever is able to do 192KHz then change that too
 
Plz note there is a bug. If your higher quality songs are not able to play and say "Unrecoverable playback error:Not enough storage is availble to complete this operation" then you have to change the DSP manager output setting to 16bit. This is a bug that has yet to be adressed.

 

[Zen21]

Thanks for the quick Reply. I did as you said and It still says the same. When I use any other media player it shows as 24bit 96k.

My setting for the E17 is 2 channels, 24 bit, 96000 studio quality. If i switch to DS E17 Plug In instead of WASAPI it shows as 96k 24bit. 
I've been playing FLAC files but to be honest I don't here any difference  in sound quality anyway lol. Thanks for your help 

 
Quote:

 
 
Well....unless your tracks are over 44.1KHz @ 16bit then technically...
 
ok to do it while in foobar hit "Ctrl+P" go to "playback" and then the little drop down menu in playback go to "DSP Manager" change the output format to 24bit. Next go to advanced. In Decoding, drop it down and change "Tone/sweep sample rate" to 96000(exactly what I typed). If your computer ever is able to do 192KHz then change that too
 
Plz note there is a bug. If your higher quality songs are not able to play and say "Unrecoverable playback error:Not enough storage is availble to complete this operation" then you have to change the DSP manager output setting to 16bit. This is a bug that has yet to be adressed.

 
 
 

 

[GrumbleFish]

I don't know if this has already been discussed here, but what's the deal with the E17 pricing on amazon? The micca option is selling at 149.99 with 5 bucks for shipping versus 139.99 with free shipping from the MiccaStore website.
 
Anyone know what's going on there?

 

[bowei006]

 
Quote:

Thanks for the quick Reply. I did as you said and It still says the same. When I use any other media player it shows as 24bit 96k.

My setting for the E17 is 2 channels, 24 bit, 96000 studio quality. If i switch to DS E17 Plug In instead of WASAPI it shows as 96k 24bit. 
I've been playing FLAC files but to be honest I don't here any difference  in sound quality anyway lol. Thanks for your help 

 
 
 
 

 
I've had computer restarts fix that...IT may not work for you,but it would just out of the blue switch. So you with the E17 using S/PDIF and WASAPI through S/PDIF changed the settings like I said and still no? If when you come back to it tomorrow after a computer restart and it's still not changed then sorry.
 
The change in that is for people with higher quality songs that want to "technically" hear it in all its glory.

 

[bowei006]

 
Quote:

I don't know if this has already been discussed here, but what's the deal with the E17 pricing on amazon? The micca option is selling at 149.99 with 5 bucks for shipping versus 139.99 with free shipping from the MiccaStore website.
 
Anyone know what's going on there?

 
That is probably a premium you are paying for Amazon. There are customers that like to return stuff and you have to pay Amazon and what not to put it up and a lot more stuff. Bascically they just introduced a middleman...and want to make money.

 

[Zen21]

Yeah still a no. Whenever I switch to play a video on Youtube or something it will change back to 96k 32bit. I'll just try the restart thing a few times. Again thanks for the help
 
Quote:

 
 
I've had computer restarts fix that...IT may not work for you,but it would just out of the blue switch. So you with the E17 using S/PDIF and WASAPI through S/PDIF changed the settings like I said and still no? If when you come back to it tomorrow after a computer restart and it's still not changed then sorry.
 
The change in that is for people with higher quality songs that want to "technically" hear it in all its glory.

 
 

 

[bowei006]

 
Quote:

Yeah still a no. Whenever I switch to play a video on Youtube or something it will change back to 96k 32bit. I'll just try the restart thing a few times. Again thanks for the help
 
 
 

 
32bit...the highest the e17 supports or will display is 24bit.
 
Maybe WASAPI is having trouble. Remember to restart(close and open) foobar after every setting change.
 
 
Just wrote a review on Amazon. Many new headphone people don't know about site's like these so a quick write up will help. I included short stuff consumers need to know, an short audiophile actual sound section and a Tips section to get started on frequent questions.

 

[M-13]

 
Quote:

I don't know if this has already been discussed here, but what's the deal with the E17 pricing on amazon? The micca option is selling at 149.99 with 5 bucks for shipping versus 139.99 with free shipping from the MiccaStore website.
 
Anyone know what's going on there?

 
Standard price gouging that happens when a new product is insanely popular. As more E17s ship and stock fills up at all U.S. Fiio dealers prices will fall.

 

[Pieface]

Initial impressions...through yamaha eph100
 
Noticable improvement from onboard sound. Bass is a lot tighter, clarity and detail are improved. Compared to the onboard sound the music seems to have less warmth but I'm thinking it's just an effect of the sound being less muddled together. Bass impact seems to be lessened but a +2dB EQ adjustment brought it back to a good level for me on hiphop and electronic tracks. Mids were tight and vocals were quite forward, The mids seem to be the more dominant range so far. Treble seemed more detailed but I wasn't fatigued, the presentation was still quite laid back. Not sure if that was more the earphones or the E17's presentation at this stage.
 
Soundstage width is increased but I would say the depth seems to be slightly less. Instrument seperation seems about the same although the extra soundstage width can sometimes seem to increase this with certain tracks. I kept looking out the window to my left on a NiN track that had something like footsteps set way out in the left of the soundstage which was pretty cool.
 
I found with the Yamaha's there was a very, very faint hiss. The background isn't completely silent but I really had to hunt for it. It didn't impact listening to music at all. This didn't seem to alter regardless of the gain or volume setting so maybe it was noise from something else? I had a play with the gain settings 0dB has plenty to drive these IEM's. Volume was plenty adequate for me in the low 20's. 6dB Gain I was listening at 16-18. The 6db gain seemed warmer and more pleasant to my ear but that might be a volume matching issue rather than anything particularly substantive.
 
I need to spend a lot more time listening to it and trying some different phones etc but as an entry level DAC/Amp I haven't found anything glaring that would make me want to send it back so far.

 

[Mutombo]

Has anybody had problems getting 96k / 24bit output from a Mac?  I have a new generation Macbook Air, and when I go to "audio midi setup" to change to 96/24 I lose all sound.  I have to unplug the dac and reset the settings back to 48/16 to get any sound.  Thoughts?
 
96k / 24bit works fine on my other (Windows) laptop, so I know the e17 isn't faulty.

 

[MickeyVee]

No problem on my 2009 MacMini. Just purchased Hotel California & Rumours 96/24 from HDTracks.  Because iTunes doesn't do Flac, I used XLD to convert it to Apple Lossless and they play quite nicely. 
Also used Decibel to play.  Nice thing about Decibel is that it plays at native resolution.  If source is 24/96, I see 96K 24bit on the E17, if I play 16/44.1, I see 48K 16Bit on the FiiO (known quirk)
 
Just did the same test on my 2011 MacBook Air iTunes and Decibel) .. exactly the same results, no problems at all.
Could it be your cable?? Just guessing.
 
Quote:

Has anybody had problems getting 96k / 24bit output from a Mac?  I have a new generation Macbook Air, and when I go to "audio midi setup" to change to 96/24 I lose all sound.  I have to unplug the dac and reset the settings back to 48/16 to get any sound.  Thoughts?
 
96k / 24bit works fine on my other (Windows) laptop, so I know the e17 isn't faulty.

 
 

 

[bowei006]

Ill try it with my Mac tmmrw.

Its not a bug and quirk wouldnt be the way to describe it. 44.1 and 48KHz along with 96KHz and its "leSer buddy" 88.2KHz if I remember correctly. Its just displayed that way.

 

[Mutombo]

 
Quote:

No problem on my 2009 MacMini. Just purchased Hotel California & Rumours 96/24 from HDTracks.  Because iTunes doesn't do Flac, I used XLD to convert it to Apple Lossless and they play quite nicely. 
Also used Decibel to play.  Nice thing about Decibel is that it plays at native resolution.  If source is 24/96, I see 96K 24bit on the E17, if I play 16/44.1, I see 48K 16Bit on the FiiO (known quirk)
 
Just did the same test on my 2011 MacBook Air iTunes and Decibel) .. exactly the same results, no problems at all.
Could it be your cable?? Just guessing.
 
 
 

 
I used the same cable on my other computer, but I'll try another one just to see.