FEARLESS Audio IEM's Discussion/Impressions
Sep 1, 2019 at 12:57 PM Post #3,316 of 5,204
Thnx for the heads up with the cable issue. I'll lower my expectation regarding the quality. I'm still waiting for mine to be delivered. But right now I'm itching to pull the trigger on Cayin n6ii. Any noise issues on the balanced side?
Cable in fact is very good. Fits recessed 2-pin on the Roland perfectly tight and secure. Jack is fine except nickel plating that is not good. If u polish it with cloth it works better for a while. Also Frequency response is subjective, and Roland seems to be responding to burn in, so I might re-evaluate stock cable and probably will replace jack to have that cable in my collection anyway, as wire quality appears to be very good.
 
Sep 1, 2019 at 12:59 PM Post #3,317 of 5,204
@Owludio I see you have audiosense t800.. which I owned aswell ... can you recommend some iem under 500 bucks or which you really like? I see you have the ibasso it04 and hidizs ms4 and are easy to drive?.. are they really good price the point .. looking for something value thanks.. looking for a good iem in a budget range
 
Sep 1, 2019 at 1:00 PM Post #3,318 of 5,204
Sep 1, 2019 at 1:09 PM Post #3,319 of 5,204
My apologies folks, for this delay. I got them Thursday as Linsoul promised but didn't expect it because Linsoul failed to update DHL tracking. So on Wednesday while being under the weather I powered through a workout and guess what? Got more sick.
So, why is that relevant? Because my hearing is affected when I'm sick and it would be wrong to do critical evaluation at that point.
So far I'm impressed with some caveats. This beast is not easy to figure out as it sounds like nothing I've heard before. Good news: Not very source sensitive, Hiby R6 is back in business with 2.5mm balanced.
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Wait, how does it sound?! I just ordered a La Hire instead. Scare of bass bleeds to vocal again and again :/
 
Sep 1, 2019 at 1:15 PM Post #3,320 of 5,204
@Owludio I see you have audiosense t800.. which I owned aswell ... can you recommend some iem under 500 bucks or which you really like? I see you have the ibasso it04 and hidizs ms4 and are easy to drive?.. are they really good price the point .. looking for something value thanks.. looking for a good iem in a budget range
That depends on what you didn't like about T800. Because if you don't mind bright sounding IEMs I would put No1. FH7, 2. it04, ..ms4 & T800. MS4 is also less bright. S8p is very good if you don't mind doing like TwiceBoss to EQ down 125Hz (I also EQ up 31Hz)
Does isolation matters for you? DD Sub bass?, extended HF (like t800)
I like it04 natural tonality (which just have been bested by Roland:trophy:) but it04(and t800) is unforgiving. MS4 is not the most natural but sounds delicious with pop, alternative and synthetic genres.
 
Sep 1, 2019 at 1:24 PM Post #3,321 of 5,204
@Owludio I need something like audiosense t800 but better mids vocals and instrument accuracy needs to be good when lot of Instruments are playing.. Something forgiving with bad mastered tracks would be nice.. So ms4 is good option for that? I am looking for t800 les bright version with same soundstage and seperation.. Thanks for advice gonna use portable devices
 
Sep 1, 2019 at 1:26 PM Post #3,322 of 5,204
That depends on what you didn't like about T800. Because if you don't mind bright sounding IEMs I would put No1. FH7, 2. it04, ..ms4 & T800. MS4 is also less bright. S8p is very good if you don't mind doing like TwiceBoss to EQ down 125Hz (I also EQ up 31Hz)
Does isolation matters for you? DD Sub bass?, extended HF (like t800)
I like it04 natural tonality (which just have been bested by Roland:trophy:) but it04(and t800) is unforgiving. MS4 is not the most natural but sounds delicious with pop, alternative and synthetic genres.
Is the ibasso IT04 brighter than Roland? i have it and i was thinking to upgrade and Roland is one choice i am considering, how they compare in soundstage, resolution?
Thanks! :)
 
Sep 1, 2019 at 1:30 PM Post #3,323 of 5,204
Wait, how does it sound?! I just ordered a La Hire instead. Scare of bass bleeds to vocal again and again :/
I was looking at Paladins graphs and see, that La Hire has slight roll-off of the bass, less than S8p. S8p has bloated mid bass in comparison. One thing that I've mentioned that bothers me is that somewhat darker presentation with considerably less shimmer and sparkle than LX and M9.
Etymotic sounds so much brighter (from my er4s memory)
Anyone else see these?

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Personal opinion- that Roland graph is forged from purest win.

Etymotics ER2se:
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S8Pro.jpg
 
Sep 1, 2019 at 1:44 PM Post #3,325 of 5,204
I was looking at Paladins graphs and see, that La Hire has slight roll-off of the bass, less than S8p. S8p has bloated mid bass in comparison. One thing that I've mentioned that bothers me is that somewhat darker presentation with considerably less shimmer and sparkle than LX and M9.
Etymotic sounds so much brighter (from my er4s memory)


Etymotics ER2se:
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S8Pro.jpg
so, do you find Roland is an endgame material for your sound preference?
 
Sep 1, 2019 at 1:51 PM Post #3,326 of 5,204
Sep 1, 2019 at 1:56 PM Post #3,328 of 5,204
come on there's no such thing as endgame :dt880smile:
"for your sound preference"
Endgame does exist if you are searching for a specific sound. Ive found my endgame for headphones years ago. This is about 3 months with IEM which im finding a set that really suit my preference. Hope La Hire can fulfill my taste
 
Sep 1, 2019 at 1:58 PM Post #3,329 of 5,204
R6 volume low gain:
balanced Roland @ 40
3.5mm Roland @ 46, ier-m9 @ 52
Roland Mids. r fuller than M9, they sound closer to the way they were described for Fiio FH7 (Cannot do my own comparison yet because as of right now my hearing is mostly back and FH7 sounds insufferably bright. Later will try a little)
Mid bass to low mids range is very full bodied spacious “Room filling kind”, sounds very natural presenting in some songs feel of actual studio, I guess. Whether it’s possible, don't know, WorriorPoet may have an answer:).
M9 has considerably less of it.

Treble is the most forgiving of any IEM including se846 & Sony ier-z1r (Sony is a lot brighter. That 100KHz capable 6mm super twitter has massive power advantage over Sonion E-stats.) ier-z1r FR I consider closest to perfection than anything I’ve heard. Miss it. Cannot wait for Sony to release something similar that fits my ears.
Roland even with 2 E-stats (as compared to EE Valkyrie that has only one) still sounds darker than LX and HF instruments and especially brass percussion pushed to the back of the stage often too far for comfort.
The treble on M9 and LX extends much better, there is no way around it. To be fair both M9 is reputed to have unusual treble extension by many audiophiles including, if I remember correctly Toranku, Steph from Major Hi-fi you tube reviews and I don’t disagree. LX also brings shimmering sounds much closer than most.
Roland feels to me like CL2 story all over again, but unlike CL2 it has no glaring flaws and forgiving enough for portable use. Like CL2, Roland has very natural tonality from Low end through lower mids. The high mids and treble feels to me like that magic starting to fade. (I will revise it when I play with EQ to find out what is it that bothers me in upper mids and treble)

Thanks again for the info. Good to know the treble is forgiving. That's what I love about the Z1R. The detail is there but it's not harsh. And it's why I mostly stay away from the FH7, especially with silicone tips and Lc4.4d cable, it sounded way too piercing. As time passes, i'm lean more and more toward the warmer/fuller/smoother sound for preference. Thnx.
 
Sep 1, 2019 at 1:58 PM Post #3,330 of 5,204
Is the ibasso IT04 brighter than Roland? i have it and i was thinking to upgrade and Roland is one choice i am considering, how they compare in soundstage, resolution?
Thanks! :)
it04 sounds to me (will check the graph later and also wonder what BGGAR gonna say :smiling_imp:) like Harman FR pushed to the limits. It sounds intense, very natural, more so than S8p and even FH7 but on compressed recordings upper mids and treble may sound harsh on it04 and hats and cymbals a bit thin and dry. With otherwise perfect imaging which I love, that harshness bothers me and on most days when my hearing is all there - I'm too treble sensitive to bear it (with Google Music where I do most listening on the go.)
So - Yes it04 is a lot brighter than Roland.
 

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